Historically (I wasn't talking about the last 13 years or whatever timeframe suits your argument) we have had more world champions than Britain on a per capita basis.
I think an arguement could be made for murray ahead of Duddy. Duddys not been that impressive in his last few outings,even prior to jcc jr although granted murray needs to step up the opposition. I think deano should be ranked above Gavin. Deanos fought some guys who have extended other top fighters. I think gavin has more potential but if the rankings purely on professional achievements id have deano ahead.
See this is where you prove yourself to be a complete hypocritical bell end. You start a thread insulting the British Boxing Posters knowledge by stating most of us wouldn't know half of them because they haven't been on Sky yet you have the cheek to say that we are 'Paddy Bashing' or 'trolling' If the heritage of all those fighters are that importnat to you, put this thread on the European Forum or on the Irish Thread. I have no problem discussing Irish fighters on this forum but if you are going to come on here and insult us before the first reply to your thread has been posted then you can take this **** elswhere. I wasn't 'Paddy Bashing' look at my original post..... I put a pic of Gavin in a St Georges Cross with a :think emoticon. Straight away your hinting about the 2 most ignorant posters etc etc (I know you was talking about your old friend Dan :yep)
also please explain how Irish is more successful in pro boxing than British? even if we give you Macklin and the Northern Irish guys. Number of British World Champion - 2 Number of Irish World Champions - 0 Number of British World Champions this century - 17 Number of Irish World Champions this century - 1 Number of British fighters in the Ring top 10 - 6 Number of Irish fighters in the Ring top 10 - 2 Number of World ranked British fighters - 23 Number of World ranked Irish fighters - 5 Number of British European Champions - 7 Number of Irish European Champions - 2
Well maybe you shouldn't stoop to the levels of the detractors. Why isn't Fury ranked? He's now gone ten rounds and competed in a scheduled 12 rounder, so surely he's elligible? Or is he still unable to prove his father's place of birth? Also McDonagh has retired, so he shouldn't be ranked. I'm afraid some of the divisions are full of fighters who've i've never seen (light heavy), but the depth of some of the divisions is pretty impressive (middle, lww, feather & super bantam).
Fury would be included if he could produce that vital documentary evidence that is still missing. Peter Mc has retired? never heard. Last I heard he was fighting in France but was never going to win that one. I taped his fight in the MEN and he did well. Got a source for this.
Sorry. Thomas McDonagh. After Woolcombe pulled out of the Commonwealth title fight, McDonagh got offered that Lusambya fella that got demolished by Craig Watson. He pulled out and was reported to have retired.
If a UK citizen fights for the British title or fights in the UK they are a UK boxer. If an Irish citizen fights for the Irish title or fights in Ireland they are an Irish boxer. if they do both then they are both. If they have Irish parents but have never had a fight in Ireland.....im sorry but there not an Irish boxer. not missing the point at all. you started a thread about Irish boxing in a british boxing forum, where your saying louglain saying that Martin Lindsay is fighting for the british title for business reasons, but Frankie Gavin has said he may fight for the title in the future because he is proud to be irish. surely that is hypocritical? Fair enough they qualify for a Irish title, but surley you should of had to have boxed in Ireland to be eligable. Frankie Gavin, the Walsh brothers are all licensed boxers with the British Boxing Board of Control, they are not licensed by the Irish equivalent so how can they be eligable to box for the Irish title???? because some bloke in Ireland phoned them and asked them!!!
I'll deal with you on an intelligent level but from the moment you joined this forum I had you down as an ignorant gobshíte and you have done nothing but prove me right time and time again. You joined this thread without knowing the first thing about the majority of the fighters on the list but would still felt you needed to acting like the typcial cúnt that you are! "If the heritage of all those fighters are that importnat to you" - its important to them - what I think doesnt really matter. There are fighters from Ireland that dont consider themselves Irish - I accept that and still support them (sometimes over "Irish" fighters) - There are fighters from Britain that dont consider themselves British - would you do the same, I doubt it, you beat your chest would call them a traitor. You come across like a narrowminded bigot to be honest. :good
Rob, Gavin has boxed in Belfast. Not the Republic I know, but that an argument that is probably best saved for another day and a different part of the forum.
we have had 17x more world champions than you this century. if you go into history it probably a higher rate. When calculating the population of the UK where does Matthew Macklin fit in? He lives in England but he is Irish??? Confusing know? If we go by your logic the population would be halved and I wouldn't count and English.
To be fair to Dan I think he's quite consistent in his outlook. He stated in another thread that he thought the likes of Haroon Khan, Pietersen, Hargreaves et al were 'traitors'. So I don't think he's singling out British born Irish fighters.