Questions regarding Marg's handwraps

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  1. strongarm

    strongarm Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Now first off, I'm not trying to defend Margarito. And as a disclaimer I would like to add that even though I am a fan of his, Hopkins is my current favorite fighter.

    But something interesting that I have noticed through out his career is that after he fights he always removes his gloves and walks around the ring with just his wraps on.

    Another thought is that, Evangelista Cotto himself said that he was present during his hand wrapping and did not noticed anything out of the ordinary.

    So I guess what I'm saying is that if he cheated before, I personally think someone would have noticed something, but if everybody is too stupid to take noticed, then there is something terribly wrong with boxing.

    Think about how many boxers possibly cheated, specially at the lower levels where fights aren't looked at as being important.

    Please, real sincere opinions?
     
  2. VARG

    VARG Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's whats most suspect...Most fighters remove the gauze too...After the Cotto fight, Cotto had his gauze removed. Why wouldn't he take off the gauze? :think

    I mean people don't bother to look because of what happens after a Margarito fight. No one bothers thinking about his wraps...they just think "Damn, this guy can take a punch and ****ed me up."

    I honestly didn't even hear the illegal hand-wrap report during the Mosley fight because I was so engulfed in the action of the bout.

    But if you look at it the other way around...it all begins to make sense. During all his previous fights as to why Cintron would cry (who's a grown ass man) from a body shot that although looked good...didn't appear devastating...why his punches look weak, but were "thudding"...why all of a sudden he comes back in the second half of the fight...
     
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    cintron cried? i know he was in pain but...i didnt see that

    if you've ever been hit with a body shot on the sweetspot/liver you wouldnt question the potential of it.
     
  4. strongarm

    strongarm Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What honestly scares me the most is the fact that nobody ever took notice. I mean, where ever there is oppurtunity there is sure to be cheaters. That goes for everything in life. Boxing really still needs some cleaning up. To me, if this has been going on all along, then most likely there is other fighters that cheat in one way or another. Damn, it really is saddening when you think about it.
     
  5. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I remember Doc Kearns said Dempsey's gloves were loaded when he destroyed Williard.
    (never proven)

    I think the Ring Magazine in the 60's did a test on some "plastered"-up gloves and said it would F-up your own hands if you did it.

    Some of the old-timers on this blog might remember that Ring Article too.

    I am just waiting to see how things shake out before passing judgement.
     
  6. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    It's been my own personal view for a long time that the boxing camps, as well as the commissions, are generally lax about what goes on with handwraps, tape, and foreign substances.

    When we hear about somebody getting caught doing something it's not the least bit surprising. So I'm somewhat opposed to the position that something is "terribly wrong" in that sense. Yeah, it's terribly wrong, but it's normal. It's always been terribly wrong.
     
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    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Trapping a hard substance inside the glove with your hand doesn't sound like it would feel very good.

    I'll say that much..
     
  8. Capitan

    Capitan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    For one ......Nazim was on the lookout for it....I believe he suspected something and kept a vigil and keen eye and voila he recognized an irregularity.
    I think the previous trainers were negligent and oblivious do to in most part inexperience.
     
  9. strongarm

    strongarm Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It may be normal but it doesn't make it right. I put myself in the position of that honest boxer who would never cheat. Just imagine if cotto's career was destroyed because of a cheat, I am not accusing Marg of cheating then, but if he tried this past weekend, then there is a possibility he did in July. Honestly think about it, Resto and Panama Lewis and what they did to Collins (very young dude) who had plenty of life left inside and outside of the ring. If that is not terribly wrong then what is?
     
  10. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    It is terribly wrong. Anybody who does it should be stoned to death - right along with the commission officials and head trainers of all the camps who have allowed this evil to exist through their negligence and stupidity.

    Who is more guilty? The 'bad buy' who gets away with it, or the representatives of the opposing camp, who FAILED to protect their fighter? The fighter puts his life and safety in their hands.

    You better believe Evangelista Cotto is saying he "didn't see anything." He didn't. Oh, nooo.. Because if something did happen it was his responsibility. Where was Billy Collins Sr. that night?
     
  11. strongarm

    strongarm Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I respect your opinion Fox, and I hope yours is closer to the truth. I would hate for Marg, who in my opinion seems like a really good guy, to be a cheater.
     
  12. eze

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    The report of the wraps came when Margo was coming out, not during the fight.
     
  13. Irländsk

    Irländsk Boxing Addict banned

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    I don't believe that plaster would have time to dry and harden properly inside a sweaty pair of boxing gloves.
    Plus the way the hands are wrapped would make it impossible to make a solid fist if the material were to harden, resulting in multiple finger injuries for the poor ******* wearing them.
    Sounds like a load of shite to me.
     
  14. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    A lot of interesting stuff in this article that slid down the front page before many caught it:

    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=18567&more=1

    Check it out. Gives quite a few really good points and stuff.:deal
     
  15. imp4pdabest

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    LoL. Maybe he is a boxing writer!