Counter punch refers to the punch being thrown BY the counter punchER. I never said ortiz is a power puncher because of his resume. I was responding to herolgees claim that ortiz wouldnt be a good win on lewis' resume and i pointed out that even some of lewis better opponents like briggs, morrison, and golota were not as good as ortiz skill wise. Try to keep up. The conversation you and i were having was comparing the effects ortizs punches had on the opponent compared to other big hitters like whyte and povetkin. I NEVER brought up ortizs resume as direct evidence of his power. Now stop changing the subject. Address your nonsensical claim that unproven rookies like dubois and serenko hit harder when they have 8 professional fights against uber drivers.
Unless Wilder drastically shows us something we've never seen before, it's a pretty safe bet Lennox splatters him.
Lewis by TKO, a mismatch really the gap in skill and pedigree is huge here. Wilder's only chance is if Lewis underestimates him and doesn't prepare properly otherwise he get's demolished.
Lewis only lost fights when he wasn't properly prepared physically and mentally, the rematches with Rahman and McCall I think demonstrated who was superior.
He doesn't need to charge Lewis to catch him with that right, he's as dangerous with it going backwards as he is going forwards.
A prime focused Lewis beats Wilder everytime, Lewis had ko losses but they were because of under estimating opponent and/or not training properly, so no excuses for his losses, they were to large degree self inflicted putting self in position to get KO'd However a focused in shape Lewis was many levels above Wilder.
No but the only reason Briggs wobbled Lewis was just that.. Odds on wilder knocking Lewis out is slim before he himself gets clocked. Lewis was a great puncher, wilder has zero wins against a true puncher with one shot power. Had Ortiz had that he would have knocked Wilder out with the 15 shot combo he hit him with.
You said I have guys who are novices as though it wouldnt show power punching in comaparison to the great Ortiz's ( which you like a predictable fanboy brought up ) actual records your defending even though it wasnt about his resume in fights which you brought up others resumes and listed ? You had to mention how Ortiz is this and that ? lol In his 20 something fights which shows hes not a one power punch guy bc we have a MULTITUDE of opponents he fought that show it.( see his 15 punch combo on Wilder)..Try to keep up ? lol No you said someone walking into shots is a counter punch...YOU stated no one has to throw a punch for it to be a counter punch , just movements... Go away Wilder cheerleader, go in general section and make a thread of how no one comes close to Ortiz power and hes a number 2 puncher,and an all time great power puncher in the other section,bc your just looking for approval but only a fool agrees with you, you'll find a few here but not me.....lol
Lewis wouldn't have taken the shots Ortiz did before he actually hurt Wilder, think McCall tenfold......
Lewis wouldn't get hit with shots like that. Lewis also took shots from Mike Tyson and V. Klitchko...who did Ortiz take shots from ? Wilder who again has not fought a proven guy with chin before...we don't know how good Ortiz's chin is bc his resume is the worst in a top ten besides Miller who will be mugging a guy 100 pounds lighter today who is not HW material. .
No. You said any time Lewis got hit on the jaw he lost which is obviously complete nonsense, I replied to you that he got hit flush plenty of times by Klitschko, Mercer, Bruno, Holyfield, Briggs and others and was never seriously hurt. So are you going to avoid that point, respond to it or just admit you got it wrong ??
LOL, OK this is getting silly now but you did say that. https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/lennox-lewis-vs-deontay-wilder.616402/page-4#post-19456701
