Successfull boxers without an amature pedigree

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  1. motownsiu

    motownsiu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    toney had 33 fight. tito trinidad may not have had a lot of amateur fights but i have a feeling it was all around him growing up with a father like that.
     
  2. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    True...how do you think his career would have changed if he'd stayed an amateur longer and fought (and won a medal) in the 76' Olympics?
     
  3. motownsiu

    motownsiu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i don't think hagler would ever be the media darling leonard was. hagler was one ugly scary looking man. but he might have been matched more carefully.
     
  4. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hard to improve on bein' an ATG middleweight, TS. With his lack of flash and menacing aura, doubt if Madison Ave. would've beaten a path to his door.
     
  5. Skilletscuz

    Skilletscuz mma champ Ronda Rousey Full Member

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    that only stems with not being able to get a fight from Ann Wolfe, who was the only notable rival competition to her. Basically it was a Pacquiao vs Mayweather caliber fight, with Wolfe ducking, as Ali had publicly called her out a few times. She pretty much cleaned the entire SuperMid division, including all the belts at one time or another. To include a Lt. Heavyweight belt. She also went down a weightclass for a catchweight fight vs a smaller opponent who was rated #1 P4P at the time. Unfortunately, Martine had to UP 20lbs, and was crushed in 3 rounds, but made a great accounting for herself.

    So..... she went down AND up, searching for competition, AFTER she had beaten the 3 Title beltholders of her Supermid weightclass. She was not a ducker...

    tell me a big name she ducked...
     
  6. WalletInspector

    WalletInspector Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Martinez was a 2-time Argentine Champion as well as 'Inter Continental Champion', and in 1997 he participated in the World Amateur Championships.

    He's no Olympian but it is some pedigree.
     
  7. RightHandLead17

    RightHandLead17 Active Member Full Member

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    JCC JR aint successful his only claim to fame is his last name:deal
     
  8. TitoMahawk

    TitoMahawk Retarded trolls detector Full Member

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    From Wikipedia (I told you i wasn't into women boxing)

    Criticism

    Other top women's boxing champions such as [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Wolfe"]Ann Wolfe[/ame] (24-1), [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vonda_Ward"]Vonda Ward[/ame] (23-1), [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leatitia_Robinson"]Leatitia Robinson[/ame] (15-1 pro; 37-1 am), and [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natascha_Ragosina"]Natascha Ragosina[/ame] (22-0) have claimed in interviews that they have challenged Laila Ali many times over the years, but Laila has always found ways of avoiding them. Boxing writers and fans have repeatedly expressed disappointment in Ali's ducking the top contenders throughout her career
     
  9. Finesse74

    Finesse74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think all of your post is wrong.
    Pac, Hop, Duran and Hagler I KNOW FOR SURE had amateur fights. Hop and Hag were pretty short. Idk about Duran or Pac.

    And every Mexican great?? BULL****
    Both Marquez bros were in the amateurs. JCC S.r has a very very very few fights as an amateur.
     
  10. tmsbry

    tmsbry #1 Full Member

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    Surprised no one said Saul Alvarez

    Was Valero an amateur boxer or did he turn pro really young aswell
     
  11. KO-KING

    KO-KING Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Margarito, pacquiao
     
  12. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    Pac was already getting paid for his fights before he turned pro.
     
  13. kirky c

    kirky c white mike Full Member

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    ken norton. he only started boxing in the marines so he didnt have to go on the front line. 24-2.
     
  14. DavidChao

    DavidChao A contender,.. a somebody Full Member

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    :huh:huh:huh:huh:huh
     
  15. Finesse74

    Finesse74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He has an amateur record...therefore having a amateur career...period :good