Do you think Juan Manuel Marquez was/is juicing?

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  1. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Probably as guilty as Pac!
     
  2. HeavyPuncha

    HeavyPuncha Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Anyone who says no is a fokking idiot. You don't have to have a brain of a first grader to know JMM is on roids. Jesus Christ the is 40 and he transform his body into a 28 year old man and tripled his power.
     
  3. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And you're accusing others of being idiots:lol:
     
  4. boyschoir

    boyschoir Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Exactly! :good

    According to Mayweather Sr. Pac is on PED's because Philippines is a country well known to produce power pellets :nut:rofl
     
  5. Holy Grail

    Holy Grail Boxing Addict Full Member

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    According to Mayweather Sr. he got his ass sued, lost the lawsuit and had to pay money to settle it

    Guess we know who was talking out of his ass. Especially during the court when Pacquiao's lawyers wanted to gather Mayweather Jr's 3 failed drug tests from Golden Boy, they were quick to settle. :nut:rofl
     
  6. Terror

    Terror free smoke Full Member

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    Use the eye test. It is obvious that he is using. Have you ever seen a person on steroids?
    Your estimations are ridiculous.
    He is on more than your roids than your average roided bear. He's probably rockin' that 18:1
    Definitely more than what you're saying. Even four pounds of muscle is hard to gain for a 38 year old man over a few months anyway.
     
  7. yingyang

    yingyang Boxing Addict Full Member

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    U got PED's Genius as your conditioning coach... u think heredia was just giving JMM a gatorade. LOL

    Ofcourse he's on juice down to the bone.
     
  8. Daruf

    Daruf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You clearly are ******ed and a waste of time.
     
  9. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Too many red flags to think he is clean.

    The very sudden change in body composition/shape for an already elite athlete is red flag even without the rest. Look at how different Vargas and Wach looked physically before being caught. A gradual change in body composition/shape is understandable but to suddenly gain so much muscle or suddenly become so ripped should raise eyebrows.
     
  10. StreetsofRAGE

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    Not sure, but I wouldn't be surprised at all. He has drawn my suspicion at this point, but I can't say I know for sure that he is and neither can anyone else besides himself and his team.
     
  11. juice20

    juice20 Active Member Full Member

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    Eye test means sweet dick all in sports where peds are used to enhance performance over straight building muscle.....did rafael palmero look "juiced"? Do some of the fat slobs at heavyweight look "juiced"? Did andy pettite look like a juicer? Some of the stereotypical mythology tossed around here is hilarious. Yes, absolutely, jmm looked different and it was eye opening. Yes absolutely it is suspicious and yes hiring who he hired is a massive red flag. His age means nothing though and using a strength coach and nutritionist can make rapid changes in body recomposition in anyone...moreso in an elite athlete who never trained with anything beyond old school (which should be the foundation ) methods. Every single professional team in virtually every sport uses trainers...not because it is a fad....because we understand more about sport specific training now, and it works. People are acting like he transformed into dorian yates....when the actual change wasn't huge and is easily attained....and yes even clean. Although all signs point to him using.....obviously. like 5 percent chance it was done clean, realistically lower than that even. I just find some comments hilarious though.
     
  12. Da Boxer

    Da Boxer Cotto Soldier Full Member

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    Yes. He is!
     
  13. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    I honestly don't know. I'm still willing to extend benefit of the doubt, probably more for him than I would to anyone else, as there is likely some bias and reluctance to want to believe he is...but it seems like quite a lot has needed to be extended lately, and even a longtime fan's supply can reach its limits...
     
  14. Daruf

    Daruf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Would it really shatter your reality if you came to find out 99% of professional athletes are using steroids and other performance enhancing drugs?
     
  15. juice20

    juice20 Active Member Full Member

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    You'll never get some people to believe that even though its completely true.....99 is way too high in some sports...in others its pretty much spot on.