Anthony Joshua vs Muhammad Ali who wins this super fight?

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Anthony Joshua vs Muhammad Ali who wins?

  1. Anthony Joshua

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  2. Muhammad Ali

    311 vote(s)
    72.8%
  1. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This video PROVES otherwise (disproves the notion that Joshua out-landed Klitschko in more rounds).:

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    According to video evidence, Wladimir Klitschko OUT-LANDED Joshua in 7 out of 11 rounds. In other words, contradicting your position that "Wladimir Klitschko was never ahead in the fight" and that Joshua SUPPOSEDLY "outlanded Wladimir Klitschko".

    I wonder what excuse you're going to use now? That the video I posted was wrong and that the ONLY person who knows how to count punches landed properly is you, whilst others don't? You're going to have to ACTUALLY PROVE your position / DISPROVE the video I posted, if you want to your position to be taken more seriously with greater precedence than mine.

    Nobody cares what your eyes told you, how many times you watched the fight or what you perceive to be fantasy. The only thing that matters is PROOF / EVIDENCE! Until you provide counter evidence / proof to the VIDEO evidence I posted, your position holds no value.
     
  2. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    i already seen this video, I don't count jabs if it's an even fight bc they are not power shots I made that clear.

    It's interesting the first punch that is counted for Klitschko is blocked and a head shot landed for Joshua is not counted for AJ at 57 seconds in after a counted body shot...this would give Joshua the lead after 2 rounds.

    Round 4 even ? I'm ok even let that go .( If I get bored I might take look at this one closer and will end up a Joshua round )and remind you how dumb this was.

    Round 5 Klitchko is knocked down and outlanded you probably don't know but that's a 10/8 round.

    The rounds added up here even if i.give you round one which Wlad didn't win is 4 rounds to 1 with the knockdown in favor of AJ. Are you sure you watched this video before you posted it ? Lol

    round 6. That's a 10/8 round
    Round 7 is Klitschko

    That leaves a score of 4 even. keep in mind I gave you a round that Klitschko lost and the time where it proves that.

    Round 8. Klitschko

    Round 9 : at 4:51 Joshua lands 4 body shots on inside that I guess we're to fast for the uploaders eyes which gives Joshua that round .I gifted you a round already you don't get this one!

    The fight is even again.

    Round 10: Klitschko .


    Round 11: Fights over.

    unless you have or gifted Klitschko round one he's not in any actual lead and if I had the punch counts with me where I have the actual power shots landed i wouldn't have had to waste half my time here as is always the case with you, I should just put you on ignore but that doesn't really do.much on here..lol

    What people can take and myself from the video bc I actually count the shots is some slow mo replays , but again I didn't need them and as I pointed out in this guys last video he missed some Wilder punches but it wouldn't have effected the outcome.

    in the end I don't need excuses because I'm not a head case like you a mental midget....lol :tmnt:
     
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  3. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You call me a 'mental midget' and a 'headcase'. Yet, it's you who can barely even post a paragraph without grammatical errors or a post without insults. If anything, it proves you are what you claim I am.

    Then you claim you don't need 'excuses'. When that's exactly what you do. You makes excuses by claiming jabs don't count all of a sudden (in your fictional world). Whilst in the real world, jabs do count as scoring punches and just because you choose to omit them, doesn't mean that others are going to as well or would need to in the first place.

    Not every round where a knockdown is scored, is a 10-8 round. Joshua dropped Klitshcko in the 5th round (with illegal rabbit punches I may add), but then got beat up in the remainder of the round after Klitschko got back up to his feet. So I scored that round 10-9 for Joshua.

    How about you actually upload a video yourself and debunk that video? Since all I read are incoherent mumble jumbos in your posts. I can barely understand anything you posted. You shouldn't have a problem disproving that video if you were so confident that your scorecard is correct and has a precedence over the scorecards of others?
     
  4. Aston Villa

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    if its an even fight on power shots then the one that's also landing the jabs should win, blatantly, like every boxing fan knows that. You including uppercuts ??
     
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  5. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Not only that. But if said power shots aren't inflicting more damage or having greater visible effect on the opponent than the jabs are, then they don't have greater value than jabs.

    Basically, any punch which is not a jab to the face is considered a 'power punch'. Even a jab to the body is considered a 'power punch'. But does that mean a jab to the body warrants more points / value than a jab to the face? Of course not, since that'd be ridiculous! Likewise, a slapping hook with very little power will be considered a 'power punch'. Does that also therefore make such a punch more valuable to warrant more points than a stiff and an effective jab that actually snaps an opponent's head back? Of course not as that's equally ridiculous!
     
  6. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Henry Coopers left hook Enery's Ammer was one of he hardest single punches in boxing
     
  7. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Ali plays with the robotic Jushua
     
  8. don owens

    don owens Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ali would make him look silly. Ali by ko round 8 or 9. Easy night of work for Ali.
     
  9. javaphil

    javaphil New Member Full Member

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    mmmm, suppose we should start a ruiz vs ali thread.
     
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  10. JackSilver

    JackSilver Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah, last nights result had ruined a top of old threads over in Classic. Lol
     
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  11. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Of course, Ali had no chance because he's a very tiny heavyweight by today's standards.
    https://www.boxingforum24.com/threa...uhammad-ali-who-wins-this-super-fight.582490/

    Like this gem here:
    AJ has a 3inch height, 4inch reach and 40 pound weight advantage at 6'6, 82 reach and 250 pounds of solid power punching muscle. Ali is 6'3, 78 inch reach and only 210 pounds. Joshua clearly has the size advantage that Ali enjoyed in 90% of his fights, so going to be a unusual experience for Ali.

    Ali does have quicker and better footwork, and faster hands, but I seriously doubt it will make up for Joshua's fast hands with such a height and reach advantage. I doubt Ali even has a punchers chance.
    I think this is a obvious win for the stronger, bigger and much more powerful Joshua. I think the smart money is on Joshua by early KO. What do you think?
     
  12. El Hans

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    Alot of delusional people on here, teach Ronnie Coleman how to throw a punch and people will flock to him
    "Size and reach" so Valuev GOAT?
    :)
     
  13. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King Full Member

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    It just goes to show how quickly people will jump on a bandwagon before an athlete actually manages to prove themselves. If a boxer has less than 25 fights on their resume and they have yet to prove they're the best of their own era, how is it even logical to place them above proven greats?

    Joshua fanboys are a perfect example of having your foot in your mouth. Now they have to use all kinds of excuses/mental gymnastics to make their ridiculous prior claims look rational. The smart ones delete their accounts or admit they jumped the gun.
     
  14. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster I check this every now and then Full Member

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    The Hypebeasts and moderists are inevitable. Seek the real truth and wait for athletes to prove themselves

    Ali dances around AJ
     
  15. SHADAPBLAD

    SHADAPBLAD Viscous Knockouts Full Member

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    One of the funniest comments on there claims that Joshua had better defense than Ali. Quite adamant about it, too