Is John Ruiz the best ...US HW fighter of the last decade?

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  1. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    On the juice.

    Toney aint done **** except beat a Ruiz and a shopworn Holyfield whilst on the juice.
     
    MrMagic, Dec 14, 2009
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  2. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He does.. lol still dont care for his style but the man isnt afraid of anyone! :deal
     
    kriszhao, Dec 14, 2009
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  3. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah people shouldnt even bring up Toney's win because he was caught cheating... it would be the same if margarito came back ko'd say ...pwill but after found out he had tampered hand wraps would he still get credit.? :deal
     
    kriszhao, Dec 14, 2009
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  4. Kid Cuba

    Kid Cuba Boxing Junkie banned

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    Indeed. I concur.
     
    Kid Cuba, Dec 14, 2009
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  5. Polymath

    Polymath Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lets just say this; it took a LONG time for Ali to get the respect he has now.
     
    Polymath, Dec 14, 2009
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  6. Tackleberry

    Tackleberry The Reverse Somersault! Full Member

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    The fact that this can even be discussed is freakin hilarious xD
     
    Tackleberry, Dec 14, 2009
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  7. lufcrazy

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    shannon briggs anyone?
     
    lufcrazy, Dec 14, 2009
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  8. Chiko_Tech

    Chiko_Tech Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bird lose to Oquendo Ruiz KO Oquendo in a super boring fight.
     
    Chiko_Tech, Dec 14, 2009
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  9. BIGRIGHTHAND

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    Ruiz'resume is pretty ****ing good with the best fighter on it.
     
    BIGRIGHTHAND, Dec 14, 2009
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  10. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    I'd say Byrd was the best. 2nd best? Ruiz.
     
    Mendoza, Dec 14, 2009
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  11. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    It's ridiculous. There are too many boxrec warriors who look at the record and say, oh, he's got some good names there, but know little or nothing about what went on in those fights - i.e. absurd degrees of excessive holding in most of 'em and playacting to get low blow callls in several.

    And then there's the gift decision against Golota - where Golota landed more punches, scored two KDs and Ruiz lost another point for some of his shenanigans, and yet still somehow "won" the fight!!! :patsch

    Like I said, without King, nobody would ever have heard of this guy other than his getting laid out in 19 seconds by Tua. Without King, Ruiz would have been lucky to win a regional belt, let alone a paper title.
     
    Zakman, Dec 14, 2009
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  12. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    A lot of Haye fans are trying to build this palooka up so they can crow about the "impressive" victory afterward!!:yep
     
    Zakman, Dec 14, 2009
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  13. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    the strange thing, with Ruiz so far resume and if he beat up Haye
    he may knock to the door of top 20 ATG HW :D
     
    Stinky gloves, Dec 15, 2009
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  14. markclow

    markclow Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Following Zakman's logic towards Lewis:

    Holyfield is no ATG.
    ATG's dont lose to ham and eggers like Ruiz.
     
    markclow, Dec 15, 2009
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  15. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The fact he has held the title and he is still fighting for it right now says it all.

    His fight against the great one RJJ was embarassing for him.

    RJJ should have retired then,...Said that too many times though!
     
    destruction, Dec 15, 2009
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