Which among these fighters do you consider an ATG? Toney, Tszyu, Wright and Calzaghe

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  1. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    atgs: none

    potential HoFers: all of them
     
    bodhi, Mar 20, 2010
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  2. MrPR

    MrPR Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    None of them are ATGs

    But James Toney comes the closest
     
    MrPR, Mar 20, 2010
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  3. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    I dont consider any of them to be all time greats even though some of them are top 10 or even top 5 in their best division but in my view none of them belong on an all time top 50 list.

    Of that list James Toney is head and shoulders above the others in terms of skills and resume.
     
    bladerunner, Mar 20, 2010
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  4. pound

    pound Coqui Radar Full Member

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    omg that is MIND BOGGLING :rofl
     
    pound, Mar 20, 2010
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  5. MrPR

    MrPR Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    None of them are ATGs

    But James Toney comes the closest
     
    MrPR, Mar 20, 2010
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  6. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Morales, Barrera, Dela Hoya, Trinidad and Lamotta doesnt also belong to top 50. Are they not ATGs ?
     
    asero, Mar 20, 2010
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    ramsgate-chap GURU Full Member

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    you total **** jockey:bart
     
    ramsgate-chap, Mar 20, 2010
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  8. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    Definitely Winky. He beat 2 hall of famers in Tito and Mosley and was the underdog in both fights. He also got a draw in the Taylor fight and landed more punches on Bernard even tho Hopkins landed the cleaner, stronger shots. Some people feel he should of gotten the decision on both Taylor and Vargas.
     
    elchivito, Mar 20, 2010
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  9. Son of Gaul

    Son of Gaul Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If I had to choose someone from this list then Calzaghe I suppose...
     
    Son of Gaul, Mar 20, 2010
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  10. TheBradyHawkes

    TheBradyHawkes ۞ Full Member

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    Toney
    Tszyu
    Wright
    Calzaghe
     
    TheBradyHawkes, Mar 20, 2010
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  11. Diggersan

    Diggersan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hall of Famers yes. ATG no way.
     
    Diggersan, Mar 20, 2010
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  12. EleventhHour

    EleventhHour Got Dat Black & Gold Soul Full Member

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    The General Forum really underrates James Toney, I think because he looks so fat at HW. He's absolutely Top 50 in my book.
     
    EleventhHour, Mar 20, 2010
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  13. punch13

    punch13 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I chose Wright (no pun intended). I'm not too familiar with James Toney's career eventhough from what I read he's at least a high level HOFer. Wright in my opinion is at least a high level HOFer. He was just so dominant at the time when he was beating Mosley, Trinidad, and Quartey, and drawing to the bigger Jermaine Taylor. It was his inactivity in the past few years that would ruin his chances to be a full fledge ATG despite having a long career 51W-5L-1D (57 total). His loss to then up and coming star Fernando Vargas was a close robbery. He was a slickster who in his later part of his career adopted a high guard defense that could shoot short quick jabs with either hand. It was an innovative weapon that Mosley, Trinidad, and Quartey could not deal with.

    My favorite on the list is Kostya Tszyu, but despite fighting very good opposition throughout his career, he had only 33 fights. Calzaghe is great too, but his lack of great opposition at their prime is what made me choose Wright.
     
    punch13, Mar 20, 2010
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  14. Kel1981

    Kel1981 P4P No.1 Full Member

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    I agree with you 100%
     
    Kel1981, Mar 20, 2010
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  15. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Calzaghe is a first ballot HOFer
     
    asero, Mar 20, 2010
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