Just spent 2 hours watching Ray Robinson and...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by icanmanifest, Dec 26, 2010.

  1. JMP

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    Mayweather would have trouble winning a round or two off of Ray. Either Sugar Ray actually.
     
  2. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    I was talking in more general terms though, because it happens all the time. This guy might be trolling or he might be serious, but there are still some many threads where what I stated happens, it's crazy.
     
  3. Boro chris

    Boro chris Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What an outstanding load of old ****age.:lol:
     
  4. jonnytightlips

    jonnytightlips Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Now that is absolute bollocks.
     
  5. TommyV

    TommyV Loyal Member banned

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    He fought 4 times in 10 weeks at one point, including fights with Gavilan and Belloise. He also fought two scheduled 15 rounders in a month with Bobo Olson [which went the distance] and Graziano. I'd like to see modern fighters do that.
     
  6. godlikerich

    godlikerich Active Member Full Member

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    All things being equal, so advanced training methods, nutrition etc, and Robinson gets the nod against most people around 147 in my opinion. Not for any nostalgic reason but simply because in many cases they old time fighters were far more active, had far far more rounds under the belt and had more experience, of both winning and in some cases losing as well as being ridiculously tough and hardy, these guys were sometimes malnourished and still turned up to fight. They often fought everyone and anyone. Add that it in to the fact that Robinson was a pioneer with debateably more talent than almost anyone bar a few exceptions ever and you have a lethal fighting machine on your hands.
     
  7. TheDon

    TheDon KO Artist Full Member

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    His hand speed and technique is there to see. His power knocked out people with iron chins.

    If he was born in the 80s he would be the best fighter in the world today.
     
  8. Devintea

    Devintea Active Member Full Member

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    Speed, power, defense, chin and heart. This dude fought...everyone...everywhere. He went on a European tour. Lost the title and came back to win it. I mean, this dude defied odds at a late age in a golden era. His combinations were blistering, his power broke defenses and rendered GROWN men tearful in addition to having a chin to walk all the way up to Light Heavyweight. You need to invest more time.
     
  9. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    lol. ****ing idiot. SRR would absolutely dominate anyone today including pacquiao and mayweather you stupid ****
    bow down to the greatest fighter of all time
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKqg7wRfDsE&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/ame]

    by the way watching shitty YouTube videos doesn't make you an expert numb nuts :lol:
     
  10. Zaryu

    Zaryu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    SRR was the truth man. Put him in Mosley's place this year May 1 and Mayweather gets KTFO in that second round.
     
  11. JMP

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    Nope, actually it isn't. Mayweather's great, but he'd be outgunned by both. Robinson would have put him in full defensive mode and Leonard could have beaten him in a fight or in a boxing match. Pacquiao would get knocked the **** out as well.
     
  12. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    I think hearns and leonard give him a great run for his money.
     
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    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

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    Remember, you're talking PBF versus two real all time great welterweights, guys who have a dangerous combination of speed, power, and skill and proved it against dudes their own size time and time again. PBF is not at his best as a WW, can he really outbox guys who have much longer reach, hands as quick or quicker, and greater power? These guys are on a totally different level than Judah, old man mosley, a faded Hoya and Hatton... It's just a horrible match up for floyd. either guy.

    Yep. Maybe he could survive a fight with a defensive Leonard. I think Robinson would make short work of him too.
     
  14. icanmanifest

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    I don;t know what trolling is.. go check my post history and see if i behave or post as such.. I RARELY originate a post.. and when I reply i think it's usually intelligible and with merit. Simple fact is I don't think the guy is the BEST P4P fighter... Did I say he sucks? My comment on the not good combos might have not have been taken well... but from what i watched he winged combos old school style from arms out to sides position and winged them in to the body and head... they aren't sharp crisp complex combos IN MY OPINION... secondly he's getting hit a a lot... He looks like a work horse and grinder... He has SKILL and seems very well rounded, and in his day it was probably the most amazing thing to witness... but i'm sorry, after watching boxing for 30 years (which doesn't make me an expert.. but it certainly means I can give an opinion).. He doesn't appear to me to be the best P4P fighting God people seem to think he is... It's my opinon.. you may think it sucks.. so what.... it's not biased... i didn't have an motive behind posting it...

    I think Pac is way too fast and crisp in his attack and would leave Robinson completely red faced, and I think Mayweather would completely shut him out... PERIOD
     
  15. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    instead of this thread going pac/may vs srr, its better to discuss the opposition of ray robinson and his skills and if he is overrrated by nostalgics or not. That would give a fun discussion.