1967 Muhammad Ali vs. 2007 Wladimir Klitschko

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I always wondered why Valuev hasn't appeared on WALDOS radar....now I know. What would WALD be out-weighed by in that one, 70-80 pounds?

 

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:blood i hate you!! ha.. one of the most absurd comments ive ever heard.
so you mean to tell me that liston, frazier, foreman, williams, norton were not the same standard as klitschko...
each of them would ko klitschko. wlad is the best of the worst crop of heavyweights ever!!

 

Ali had more of a solid career up to that point ofcourse he was dropped by a 185lb Henry Cooper and dont tell me that Cooper had a better hook, Frazier may have but what Big man did Ali fight with tools like Vlad, JAB,HOOK,RIGHT hand...Ali has been mentally tougher than Vlad up to now and that could mean a lot but this is a tough fight for ALi...I pick Ali but I would not bet the house on it....and a top form Vlad could stop Ali on a given night...Vlad has to prove consistancy

 

cmon. clay and foreman would own waldo but frazier would have major problems. klit would have a near 8 inch height advantage. frazier was also a one-handed fighter. waldo could circle left and pump that jab into frazier's face. klit also has ko power in both fists. certainly frazier can get to klit's paper mache chin and weak heart but id favor Dr. Cottonhammer. klit would destroy norton and any of the other 70 fighters excluding holmes.

 

Ali got stopped once in his entire career despite facing monstrous punchers before and after his prime....you really think WALDO could stop him? Can't see it myself, Ali's chin, stamina and heart are all beyond question. WALDO has big question marks over all 3.

Incidentally, what's worse, getting dropped while clowning against Cooper and stopping him in the very next round, or getting stopped by Purrity? This is a reasonable comparison because they were both of similar age when the 2 incidents occured.

 

Well, if being taller and heavier equates to being greater, then who could blame him? If according to some here, Holmes would lose to Wlad because of a mere 3 inch height defecit, then imagine how ****ed Wlad would be against Nikolay.

 

I agree that Klit would have a decent chance against Norton....but I do feel you're under-rating Joe Frazier a bit here, Ali had one of the best jabs of all time and he couldn't keep Frazier at bay with it so I fail to see how WALD could. Fraziers movement and elusiveness comes into play big time should the 2 ever meet, yes there's a big size difference but that doesn't make the fight a given for WALD, not at all. Prime Frazier could give anyone hell.

 

sorry mate i dont agree but i think wlad is utterly ****

 

Not to mention Wlad's soft spot for quick handed lefts, and if he fought Joe, he'd be fighting the best of them all.

 

Good post, mentally, Wlad couldnt handle a Brewster that was on his ass for 16 months before taking on Wlad, the same Brewster that got beat by both Shufford and Eitenne. As another poster already said, Wlad's the best of one the worst Heavyweight divisions boxing has seen in some time. Ali would expose Wlads weaknesses very quickly starting with his toughness and ending with his chin, I perdict glass shattering, and Wlad laying face down on the canvas, after panicking and falling numerous times before the final knockdown.

 

That's the whole point there in a nutshell - they think WALDS skills would overcome Valuevs obvious physical advantages (and they probably would in my opinion, incidentally) yet fail to see the glaring hypocrisy in the statement 'WALD would beat Ali because he's 3 inches taller and 40 lbs heavier'

It's the twisted logic of fanboys, make no mistake on that. Hell Window thinks that WALD would beat Lewis on the strength of a 1 inch height advantage and a big right hand

 

There comes a point where surplus of pounds works against you.

You always think that cruiserweights will beat Heavyweights?

 

I don't see how Ali would get KOd by wlad, Ali never got KO'ed even though he faced the hardest punchers of the history of the sport:
foreman, liston, shavers, frazier. If these guys couldn't KO ali, i dont think wlad could do it.

 

Yeah....I don't underestimate WALDS size playing a part in this match-up, not at all but watch those 3 Ali-Frazier fights and one of the very best jabbers of them all couldn't dissuade the man. I do know WALD hits harder with one shot than Ali did which is why I give WALD a chance, but to suggest Frazier would just be on the outside eating jabs is ridiculous. Even the Foreman losses were toe-to to type fights, Frazier to my knowledge never struggled with a good jab apart from Ali - and even in those fights he wasn't exactly on the end of the jab all night as the scorecards testify. Frazier from around 1970 onwards was a VERY elusive fighter.