1988 Mike Tyson vs 1940 Joe Louis

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Who wins and how

  1. Tyson KO

    44.4%
  2. Tyson TKO

    16.7%
  3. Tyson UD

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  4. Tyson SD

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  5. Draw

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  6. Louis KO

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  7. Louis TKO

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  8. Louis UD

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  9. Louis SD

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  10. ARE YOU KIDDING?? WE ALL KNOW WHO WINS THIS.....

    2.8%
  1. CharlesBurley

    CharlesBurley Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Well ok, it looks very much like Godoy won the first fight. Same with Schmelling-Sharkey and Louis-Walcott
     
  2. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This would end ugly for Louis. Louis didn't possess the chin
    or foot speed to survive this version of Tyson. A fighter has
    to have at least one of those attributes.
    The only chance Louis would have is to blitz Tyson behind
    a power jab, get his combo's going early and hope to
    catch Tyson cold. But this is unlikely.
     
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  3. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft 'Snarky Little Gobshite' - IntentionalButt Full Member

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    Yet virtually no one at the time though Godoy won?
     
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  4. CharlesBurley

    CharlesBurley Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    A judge thought Godoy won and the United Press scored it a draw
     
  5. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Ii6 Full Member

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    Nobody claimed that back then. People only thought that he confused Louis and gave him good fight, that's why Joe gave him rematch (he always did that). We all know that Louis dominated Godoy in second fight.
    If I remember correctly, we have all but one rounds from this fight (though most incomplete). Contemporaries thought that this was a huge controversy, unlike with Godoy fight.
    Again, there was controversy then. Unlike with Godoy fight.
     
  6. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah and the rest thought Louis won easily.
    • The New York Times reported: "Louis won sloppily against a bruising, mauling and rushing fighter who knew no fear or retreat." Many in the crowd booed the decision, but the Times called the verdict "eminently fair." Its reporter scored the fight 10-5 for Louis and stated that other reporters had a similar score.
    • The Associated Press scored the fight 10-5 for Louis. They gave the champion the last five rounds.
    • The International News Service scored the fight 9-6-1 for Louis.
    • The United Press scored the fight even, giving each fighter five rounds and calling five even.
     
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  7. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Ii6 Full Member

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    Not to mention that Godoy didn't actually win most available rounds. It was a close fight full of smothering and clinching. Louis won more exchanges in my opinion, but even if you disagree there is no way to call it a robbery.
     
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  8. CharlesBurley

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    This is fair enough. I'd always been under the impression Godoy got the better of it but perhaps I'm wrong and it's merely a close fight
     
  9. JohnThomas1

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    The New York Times called it 10-5. "Other reporters" had similar scores. The Associated Press scored it 10-5. INS scored it 9-6-1.

    Of the three judges one called it 10-5 and another 10-4-1.

    Close might still be the wrong word.
     
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  10. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Ii6 Full Member

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    Let me put it this way - in normal circumstances, nobody would try to find here any controversy. Since Louis was basically unbeatable in his prime, some people give boxers extra credit for lasting the distance. Godoy wasn't dominated in first fight, but I don't think he had any case to win decision based on what we know.
     
  11. SerbianLoudmouth

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    Tyson iron chinned?Only some dumb Tyson fan can said something like that!Do you really think that Tyson could take blows like Frazier from Foreman and get up?Do you think that Tyson could survive blows from Marciano for 8 rounds without getting knocked?Louis was only once stopped by KO and that was his last fight!Marciano stop him in late rounds and Tyson gasses after round 6 always very badly!
    Tyson Iron chinned?Stopped by bum Douglas,knocked by not even a true heavyweight Holyfield but ex cruiser and was knocked by bums Williams and McBride!That was not even solid but weak chin!At 38 years old Tyson was beaten by bum and Louis was beaten by one of the greatest fighter ever shows that Louis chin is much,much better and that Tyson chin is not so good!
     
  12. Dance84

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    Mike tyson stops louis
     
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  13. janitor

    janitor Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Why would anybody draw comparisons between Godoy and Tyson.

    Godoy crouched so low that he was practically crawling on all fours!

    He held onto Louis, like a frightened child onto its mother!

    Whatever the merits of his case, he used completely negative tactics throughout the fight!

    He gave it a good try, but none of this suggests that Tyson would have similar success!
     
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  14. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mike by TKO anywhere from 8 to 10 rounds. Joe would give a good account of himself, but a early round knockdown of Joe around the 3rd spells the beginning of the end.
     
  15. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    So Louis ko’s Holyfield in round 1 and Tyson in 2. I think you should actually think about the fights without being completely blinded by nostalgia