2 great rivals/same ethnicity @ tragic deaths

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  1. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    We were two great boxing rivals who had a common ethnicity, and we both had tragic deaths years apart. Who were we ?
     
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    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Correction.: They had different ethnic backgrounds...:patsch
     
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    I'll say Stanley Ketchel and Billy Papke.
     
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    JW U are correct... Ketchel and his rival Billy Papke fought each other four times. Ketchel was shot and killed by Walter Dipley in 1910, and Billy Papke killed his estranged wife and committed suicide in 1916...the middleweight division has the most tragic events of all the weight classes...
     
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    What about harry greb and Tiger Flowers Burt. Botgh died following eye surgery.
     
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    Patterson and Quarry too. They had them two close fights that helped rejuvenate Patterson's career. Both suffered and died from forms of Alzheimer's (I think Patterson may of had cancer too).
     
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    And Les Darcy died at age 22, Dave Sands died in an auto accident, Marcel Cerdan who i saw fight Georgie Abrams, was killed in a plane crash over the Azores to fight a return match [1st match was posponed ,cause Jake LaMotta
    claimed injury],Battling Siki was shot in the mean streets of Hell's kitchen, NY, Dick Tiger died from cancer at age 42. Yep Al, the middleweights had a tragic start when Jack Dempsey "The Nonpareil" died from consumption at the age of 33. Yep a tragic division....:good
     
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    not to mention Monzon
     
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    Monzon too was killed in a car crash.

    I would not want to be Hagler...;)

    The only one who seems immune from this, is the Devil himself, LaMotta...
     
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    Machen and Folley was my answer lol.
     
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    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes Al Monzon too had a tragic end. Were I starting out to be a pro fighter today, I would go from welterweight to light heavyweight, thus avoiding the curse...Cheers AF...
     
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    Randy Turpin comitted suicide as did Kid McCoy who had a claim on the middleweight title.
     
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    Yes Randy Turpin who I saw coming close to stopping Ray robinson at the old Polo Grounds in 1951. Yes he too committed suicide....And Kid McCoy committed suicide in 1940....
     
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    What two world champions who held the same name died while in their younger days?The two champs fought years apart in their careers.
     
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    Davey Moore
     
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