20 years from now, will we remember Pac as Cheat or ATG?

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  1. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    of course they will, the best fighters of an era are awlays remembered, pac is a atg and the best fighter of this era so he will be remembered for sure just like ray leonard,ali,duran,hagler,whitaker,chavez,mayweather,hopkins,jones etc. etc.
     
  2. shimmy

    shimmy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Is it just me or does Floyd look more ripped up than Pacquiao? And the same weight jump as well, I don't find it odd that either of them can be boys at 16 and make 106 and fight at 140-147 as full grown men, both of them have added muscle, this argument is complete bull****, Pac hasn't been caught with anything and neither has Floyd. But people who accuse so much usually have something of their own to hide. I do however think PEDS are prevalent in all sports and boxing is right up there with them, rather they use it to mend injuries faster, which is likely the case or whatever its there. You think promoters want a guy on the shelf for a year if they can throw him some steroids to heal him quicker? I was prescribed steroids twice to heal a back injury, if I got them these guys surely can get whatever they want. I'm personally sick of this **** argument, if Pacs on them, so is Floyd, if Pac isn't, neither is Floyd, neither one caught ever so **** this.
     
  3. DobyZhee

    DobyZhee VIP Member

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    youre way over thinking this thing
     
  4. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'll tell ya in 20 yrs

    speculating history that far in advances doesnt always sit well
     
  5. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    He's a hall of famer now whether you agree with his ranking all time its up for debate but there is no question he will be remembered as an all time great !
     
  6. slugger3000

    slugger3000 You Mad Bro? Full Member

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    ATG... there's no evidence that he's cheating!
     
  7. DobyZhee

    DobyZhee VIP Member

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    neither were Mcquire and Sammy Sosa..:smoke
     
  8. slugger3000

    slugger3000 You Mad Bro? Full Member

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    So your saying because pac is breaking records that it automatically makes him dirty?? :verysad.. He's Innocent until proven guilty!
     
  9. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    18% of voters are deluded *******s "he must be a cheat, look how good he is, its not natural, peds are the only explanation" makes me cringe.
     
  10. PNoyFightFanUSN

    PNoyFightFanUSN Larry Don't Give a **** Full Member

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    So...because he stumbled on words like in a lot of his interviews? That video is wrong anyways. He DID mention being weakened because he had to take a blood test before the Morales fight and there's a readily available to find video on youtube of an interview he did in the philippines very shortly after the fight where he talks about that very thing.

    But that's all irrelevant anyways because that video IS NOT PROOF.
     
  11. arsabs

    arsabs Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  12. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    The PED user proved himself guilty, he should have pleaded the 5th instead of going through this interview......


    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZr6MZDBPZI&feature=player_embedded[/ame] :lol:
     
  13. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    His performance is only one variable.
    You have to look at the whole picture before pointing a finger.

    Manny is afraid of needles.

    Manny is weak for 3 days when there is blood drawn from him.....

    Manny wants a 24 day window of nontesting......

    Hllleaaavy training!

    ......are all parts of the rest of the puzzle that can then give credence to point a finger.


    Hell, the PED user says it all in this interview....
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZr6MZDBPZI&feature=player_embedded[/ame]
     
  14. sailor pops

    sailor pops miam! vice Full Member

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    arent u tired posting the same **** all the time? G A L
     
  15. Mohak

    Mohak RIP Smokin' Joe Full Member

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    In 20 years, both. Just like Roy, Mosley, Toney and Holyfield. ATG fighters assured a place in the Hall of Fame, but were caught out.