2003 Lewis vs 2003 Wlad

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Redbeard7, Jul 5, 2023.


Who wins?

Poll closed Jul 12, 2023.

  1. 2003 Lewis

    42 vote(s)
    80.8%

  2. 2003 Wlad

    10 vote(s)
    19.2%
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  1. CooperKupp

    CooperKupp “B.. but they all playin NBA basketball again!” Full Member

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    Not according to their trainer :)

    Manny Steward: “Wladimir is the most talented big man that I have ever seen or worked with. This man has more one punch power than anyone I’ve trained”

    Yeah… Lewis isn’t walking through ****. Lol
     
    CooperKupp, Jul 7, 2023
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  2. Levook

    Levook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    There's no reasoning with people that believe their opinion is fact.

    I think it's called the Dunning-Kruger effect?
     
    Levook, Jul 7, 2023
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  3. Levook

    Levook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Oh and Lewis KO Wlad mid-rounds.
     
    Levook, Jul 7, 2023
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  4. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Of course he would say that he was the one getting paid lol.

    Lewis wouldn’t have time to turn him in to putty like he did Vit. He’d dropped him hard and fast.
     
    turbotime, Jul 7, 2023
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  5. Levook

    Levook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    People are saying Lewis walks through Wlad, but that's impossible; Lewis walks one step towards Dr. Octoclutch and he's all wrapped up.
     
    Levook, Jul 7, 2023
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  6. Diddy

    Diddy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I’m more annoyed we didn’t get the Lewis-Vitali rematch than I am Lewis didn’t fight Wlad. Around the time they filmed Oceans 11 Lewis would’ve sparked Wlad out. Wlad was chinny earlier in his career. Vitali was chinny never. That’s why Vitali gave Lewis such hell. He stood in there and traded haymakers. Wlad would’ve gotten put out by those shots.
     
    Diddy, Jul 7, 2023
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  7. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wlad wasn't a clincher pre-Brewster 1 and wasn't even a clincher at 41 against SHW Joshua: the most similar opponent to Lewis he fought.
     
    Redbeard7, Jul 8, 2023
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  8. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lewis and Wlad both had chin problems but Wlad was more athletic and powerful than Lewis, with better offensive skill than Vitali. So while Wlad could have got put out by Lewis, Lewis could have been McCall'd or Rahman'd early too.
     
    Redbeard7, Jul 8, 2023
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  9. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "Of course he would say that he was the one getting paid lol."

    Lewis's ex-opponents Mercer and Phil Jackson said the same thing. If it was just about fluffing Wlad then he'd have said "Wlad is my greatest heavyweight" but he didn't, before he died he still said Lewis was his greatest at that time. He also said that Lewis had several advantages over Wlad. So it's more likely that Steward was being honest about Wlad's advantages.
     
    Redbeard7, Jul 8, 2023
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  10. kirk

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    I would lean towards a prime Lewis ever so slightly, but at this particular time it's hard for me seeing an older and slower LL deal with Wlads raw talent at that time.

    Wlad hits harder than Vitali and while I think it's possible Lewis could out dog Wlad and wind up stopping him late in a war... part of me also think Wlad has too much power for that to happen and Lewis gets stopped.

    It's a tough call for me.
     
    kirk, Jul 8, 2023
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  11. kirk

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    One of the best fights to never happen imo.
     
    kirk, Jul 8, 2023
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  12. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    A pre-prime Wlad was very vulnerable.

    However, he was also a lot less cautious, where he was far more aggressive.

    A very dangerous fight for Lennox.
     
    Loudon, Jul 9, 2023
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