60s Ali vs. Ken Norton.

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  1. detamour

    detamour Guest

    watch the 2nd norton fights first 5 rounds, theres your answer!!
     
  2. Vince Voltage

    Vince Voltage Boxing Addict Full Member

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    PhillyPhan already said it best, and I salute him.
     
  3. ribtickler68

    ribtickler68 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Very well put!
     
  4. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Heavy Hands: the critique was correct that you should not be nasty, & it damages your credibility.

    And there is no logical reason to believe the man is a troll for having a different persepective.

    However, I happen to agree 100% with your substantive ARGUMENT about the comparison to a prime Ali. Folks cannot just lazily assume that a different version of Ali would never do better when he had much improved foot speed + some more endurance to go full flight + a bit more hand speed.

    Just keep it clear & clean so your case is recognized, & mainly so you do not denigrate the friendly debate, OK? :drama:rolleyes:
     
  5. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah. Ken would always give 'boxer types' such as Ali and Larry Holmes a war.
     
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  6. FastHands(beeb)

    FastHands(beeb) Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Agree completely with your sentiments, Entaowed.
     
  7. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    not saying he wouldn't. just saying liston was better than norton.
     
  8. heizenberg

    heizenberg Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think no matter what Ken Norton would always given Ali a difficult time. Ali in his prime was faster with both his hands and feet and had much better movement which I think would allow him to beat Norton by two or three rounds.
     
  9. Jshort

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    Ali moved to his left right into Nortons right hand, prime Ali or not. Nortons style was perfect for beating Ali.
     
  10. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A youthful Ali turns him all night. He'd make Norton look like a plodder in there trying to catch up to the guy. Kenny is in no way fast enough on his feet for that version.
     
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  11. Azzer85

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    On his best day beats them all.

    Oh and Ali is the unviersally recognised barometer of heavyweight greatness.

    He IS the measuring stick.

    (Sorry Louis fans)
     
  12. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ali wins 12, possibly 13 rounds against Norton, wins an easy decision.
     
  13. Rope-a-Dope

    Rope-a-Dope Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The younger faster Ali wouldn't get hit by Norton as much and would just generally be too quick in every way. Ali by UD.
     
  14. gentleman jim

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    The late 60's version of Ali would've had an easier (though not easy) time with Norton than the 70's version. The late 60's Ali was more mobile and had the legs to move all night if necessary. Plus his hands were faster. Norton would be kept turning by Ali while looking to inflict damage and Ali would out speed him with his hands in mid ring. The 70's Ali used up a lot of energy trying to dance too much against Norton and it cost him when he got tired. Even then Ali still made good use of his reflexes and faster hands and of course his chin but he couldn't stay on his toes all night anymore and Norton was able to land some good shots. Pre exile Ali would avoid a lot of the punishment post exile Ali recieved from Ken due to his better legs and stamina. He just wouldn't be there as often for Norton to land.
     
  15. fistsof steel

    fistsof steel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ali for sure...even Norton knows this.!!!!