80's heavies vs. today

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  1. Raggamuffin

    Raggamuffin You dipstick Full Member

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    Any fighter with a good gameplan, steady and hard jab and decent power can win against Valuev. He just isn't a volume puncher and throws little combinations
    See what Chagaev did to him
    Futhermore, his chin has not been tested.
     
  2. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Both eras are equally bad, so I'd expect something approaching a 50-50 split...although some beltholders from that period did pick up an alarming number of close fights and losses, at least they were SLIGHTLY more willing to fight each other.
     
  3. Curtis Lowe

    Curtis Lowe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    S.I. win UD T. T. Tubbs wasn't much and was never in greatshape
    P.T. win R. C. Thomas had a excellant jab, very powerful
    N.V. TKO 10 F.B. Poor Frank tended to fall apart late in fights
    T.W. TKO S.P. Tim way to good for primative Peter
    T.T. W UD T.B. Berbick was very crude and stupid
    O.M. TKO 9 M.D. Oleg still gets no respect, amazing
     
  4. sst

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    Valuve would cursh Bruno who is taylor made for him.
     
  5. Raggamuffin

    Raggamuffin You dipstick Full Member

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    Valuev is just a big ol' oafish fighter.
    Ok, Bruno is also but is a little more skilled and has had more big fight exposure
     
  6. sst

    sst Active Member Full Member

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    Chin up working behind a somewhat lazy jab is a recipe for getting ktfo against Valuev. Bruno gets koed.
     
  7. Raggamuffin

    Raggamuffin You dipstick Full Member

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    Who has Valuev KOed then who was worth mentioning ?
     
  8. Cruiser1

    Cruiser1 Champion Emeritus Full Member

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    Not to mention the fact that most of the fighters are just downright boring to watch.
     
  9. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    I agree completely. Having followed boxing quite avidly in the 80s, I can verify that these guys were certainly no better than the current crop, and quite possibly worse. The only outcome you indicated that I disagree with is that I think Maskaev would knock Dokes out. Gerrie Coetzee, who was quite comparable in quality to Maskaev knocked out a "prime" Dokes, so I have little doubt that Oleg could replicate the feat.

    There is good reason that they called this era "The Lost Generation." For the most part, all of these guys were seriously flawed, and many of them were never in tip top condition. With few exceptions, that is not the case with the current contenders.
     
  10. MrSmall

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    BodyBlaster?
    How's the footy career, guy?
     
  11. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    Tony Tubbs vs. Sultan Ibragimov - Ibragimov SD
    Pinklon Thomas vs. Ruslan Chagaev - Thomas UD
    Frank Bruno vs. Nicolay Valuev - Valuev UD
    Tim Witherspoon vs. Samuel Peter - Witherspoon UD
    Trevor Berbick vs. Tony Thompson - Berbick UD
    Michael Dokes vs. Oleg Maskaev - Dokes UD
     
  12. Sonny Carson

    Sonny Carson Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The only thing I know is that there is no way Peter beats or knocks out Whitherspoon unlesss Spoon's out of shape.
     
  13. BodyBlaster

    BodyBlaster Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hey man. Im only a month/6 weeks back training.
    My girl had our baby boy 11wks ago, so i took time out to help her through her pregnancy.
     
  14. TheGreat

    TheGreat Boxing Junkie banned

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    Today's division is far worse than the 80's hands down.
     
  15. MrSmall

    MrSmall Member Full Member

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    Hey congratulations mate.
    I remember you from about a year ago, you were pretty clued up on things.
    So you still playing footy on a high level?