85 Tyson vs Ron Lyle

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  1. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    How does a green Tyson do against a Peak Lyle?
     
  2. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lyle TKO in 6 or 7 (at the latest)

    Mike would have been too young, though losing by mid-round TKO might have served him well in the future. It might have given him something to prove and endurance.
     
  3. Devon

    Devon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ron Lyle, he was a world class fighter and would lose to no fighter on their debut and would not lose to a Tyson who had near no experience
     
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    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    I didn’t mean debut Tyson, but the late 85 version
     
  5. Richard M Murrieta

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    To be honest, Cus D Amato would have not put Mike Tyson in with a wily veteran like Ron Lyle right away, Mike was learning the ropes. But later on probably before the title bout against Trevor Berbick in November 1986, he would have. But a good hypothetical match.
     
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    The Berbick Mike would have stopped Lyle, no doubt in my mind
     
  7. Jamal Perkins

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    Just playing devils advocate here.....if we take the green tyson of december 1985 who is 15-0 ....is there anything to suggest Tyson at this stage lacks endurance ?

    Tyson was sometimes sparring 15 round blocks against 4 seperate sparring partners.....tyson had been sparring young unbeaten heavies like a 1982 bruno and 83 carl the truth...as a 16/17 year old......would he really be intimidated by lyle? Lyle"s own stamina wasnt great.
     
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  8. William Walker

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    Tyson was green, and if we're talking about a prime Lyle, who is very dangerous, Lyle would undoubtedly be the winner. However, Tyson would have been competitive w/ Lyle, and I think he could last the distance w/ Lyle and lose the decision. I think it would be an instance similar to when Lyle fought Stan Ward, except more pleasing to the eye.
     
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    Tyson would probably lose.

    6 months later, in real life, he had quite a tough fight with James Tillis.

    Lyle was nothing special but he was tough and a good all-rounder. Not great in any department but good at almost everything. He boxed okay, he punched pretty good, he took a punch pretty well, he was strong, tough, showed heart.

    A peak Lyle beats a 15-0 Tyson.
     
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    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good question, Jamal. Partly I agree with William:

    Except I do think Mike was too green to last the distance with Lyle. How many people knocked down Foreman (and almost stopped him twice?)

    Mike had a GREAT defense in his prime 80s incarnation. But at this early stage it wasn't honed, perfected. In a way I think the Tillis fight did him a world of good.

    Lyle stops Mike in 6 or under. Mike couldn't take those shots for long...and let's face it, Lyle's lack of being intimidated would take a lot of the fight out of Mike.
     
  12. William Walker

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    maybe ur right, Mike hadn't been in any tough fights up until Tillis as u say, and he never traded w/ a big bomber up until Bruno in '89
     
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    Tyson Still very green in 85. An experienced Lyle could well take advantage. Unless Lyle freezes up, like many did against Tyson, then there s a chance of a upset. Maybe a late ko or point s win for Ron.
    At this point in time, Tyson was still learning, he went through a slightly tough time with Tillis. Lyle had a solid punch to so Mike s getting knocked around a bit to.
     
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    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    OBVIOUSLY LYLE KO 1
    IN PRISON LYLE WOULD USE MIKEYS HIGH VOICE WELL AND AFTER GIVING HIM A BEATING, MAKE MIKE HIS *****. HIS BEEEEEAAAATTTTCCCCCHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!! AND THERE WOULDN'T BE A ****ING THING MIKE COULD DO ABOUT IT. LOL
     
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    lol