91 foreman v prime Carnera?

There were easier fights for him than Cooney too. Rather than accept that however you try to explain it away with nothing but fiction and (biased) opinion. I put forth the same possibility per Carnera and suddenly it can't be possible.

 

Well considering Foreman signed to fight Holmes i'm a bit surprised you would mention him. The only thing that stopped the fight was the promoter not paying Foreman the agreed money by the agreed deadline.

I wholeheartedly agree Foreman was extremely choosy in his comeback. I'm not entirely convinced he wouldn't take a punt on a Carnera at the Cooney stage.

 

Since when did Carnera possess any of the attributes the above named fighters had?
Christ this is getting silly. All George would see is a big oafish target in front of him.

 

I brought Holmes into it because he was very explicit in saying that he didn’t want to fight Holmes, and very explicit in saying why he didn’t want to fight him.

This gives us an insight into his thought processes.

I think that Cooney was more what he was looking for than Carnera would have been.

Cooney was a guy who would be willing to go toe to toe with him, and who had seen better days himself.

He would look at Carnera and see a big active guy, who was obviously going to fight him defensively.

Even if he thought he would win, he might think better of fighting such an opponent.

 

Oddly enough, the people who were actually going to have to fight Carnera, never saw that!

 

Edit: Yeah never mind Foreman by stoppage.

 

I think If bald Foreman was champ and Carnera was his mandatory challenger George might vacate the title and fight Crawford Grimsby.

 

I agree with this too. The Cooney win was impressive. If an unknown bald fighter not called Foreman did this to Cooney people would say "even if Gerry was out of the ring a long time that new guy with the bald head looks pretty good!" It gets underrated because it was George.

However, George knew how good he himself was, he knew Cooney was rusty, that despite Gerrys power, he knew deep down he should be able to knock off a part time guy that Michael spinks knocked out.

 

He'd be a chance. His second career right hand was a lot straighter and most definitely straighter than Baer's, particularly when he had an opponent hurt. Carnera could take some punishment tho so it's an open book.

I think first career Foreman would blow him out in 1 or 2 rounds. He'd terrorize him.

 

Yet he still signed to fight Holmes.

At any rate i can't see Carnera striking fear into his heart as witnessed by 73% voting for Old George in this thread.

 

Foreman always had a dangerous right hand. Like you say it was an adapted straight punch In his comeback. a shorter punch than he had before.

Baer had a very long right hand punch it came from way up high outside. A very long, long range power blow. He sometimes brought his right leg over with it to make it land from an even longer distance. I think that's how he caught Carnera. Baer was standing too far away to land but he still landed because of this long unconventional right hand blow.

It was not a blow old Foreman had.

Eddie Futch said once that Baer was really clever with that right hand. This was in a question about Futch favourite game plan. He said Max would stalk a guy all around the perimeter of the ring allowing him to maintain a safe distance until he could trick the guy into feel his back touch the ropes. He knew a natural response is to step forward off the rope and by then not only had the guy mistakenly shortened his safe distance but Max had timed a right hand to crash down on the guys jaw. He said Max was so perfect at this that his favourite gameplan was the one Braddocks trainer used to stop this. Each time Braddock was positioned into this rope trick he was ordered to jab Baer and because of this Futch says this was how Baer never got off in that fight.