A Better Win than Pac - Barrera

BundiniBlack · Jun 12, 2015

Genaro Hernandez and Lehlo Ledwaba are comparable. Pacquiao over barrera is in the discussion of greatest wins of the last 50 year right along side Ali over Foreman, Bowe over Holyfield, Sanchez over Gomez etc

markq · Jun 12, 2015

BundiniBlack said: ↑

Genaro Hernandez and Lehlo Ledwaba are comparable. Pacquiao over barrera is in the discussion of greatest wins of the last 50 year right along side Ali over Foreman, Bowe over Holyfield, Sanchez over Gomez etc
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Get outta here casual!

Manfred · Jun 12, 2015

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they really try hard to elevate floyd's greatness when in reality he is over rating him on his atg status. he did not dominate his division when he was prime. he did not clean up all legitimate challenges to consider he has a very great skill. he retired when the welter weight division was full of good match ups and unretired when the dust settled down. he came back to fight slow fighters and still he didn't really dominate them but just showed his preserved speed on slow fighters. he has fought past prime opponents lately but he just dominates in speed and avoids wars by just running around and pot shotting for a win on slow aged fighters. at least with pac who fights past prime fighters in a battle everytime. past opponents of floyd are now being built up and past pac opponents are being discredited just to justify the runner's tbe claim which is again weak because they are basing floyd's greatness by comparing it to pac's. there are a lot more atg's ahead of pac and floyd to begin with and all these maneuvers are just actually on getting one ahead of the other in atg rankings. most fans atg list did not change after the pac-floyd fight since it happened too late, they are already both past primes. pac is still ahead of floyd in most atg rankings.[/quote:huh

Don't need to elevate Floyd because it's world known that he's head and shoulders with the best that ever did it. Now Pac is another story. He started as a one punch ball of fire that was exciting to watch and went to being a puppet and clown act for Bob Arum, who was feeding him steroids and had him fighting way out of his weight class, until Floyd called his ass out on it. You talking about slow fighters, have you looked at Pac's resume. Out of his last 26 fights 11 of them were with the same people and with the exception of Floyd JMM and Algieri, the rest were b /b+ class welters from the Arum stable of bums. Before that, he was fighting people that were only known by their mamas. Pac is a manufactured fighter and so is the last third of his resume.
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tinman · Jun 12, 2015

markq said: ↑

Get outta here casual!
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Pacquiao Barrera 1 is one of the greatest wins since boxing was televised.

Do you know how rare it is for somebody to knockout a prime ATG the way Pacquiao did to Barrera?

Pacquiao took his soul.

It's up there with Haglers performance against Hearns. It was that special.

rapscalion · Jun 12, 2015

Sven Ottke, Joe Calzaghe, Rocky Marciano, Ricardo Lopez are the 4 best fighters of all time since they were undefeated. Being undefeated is the one and only thing that matters in boxing.

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A Better Win than Pac - Barrera

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