A bit of perspective on P.Williams

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  1. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion

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    I couldn't agree more. Dawson and Williams are skilled and two of the best in the world today and are ducked. But people for some reason or another refuse to give them props and say they're just hype.:-(
     
  2. yesihavearm2

    yesihavearm2 ESB Chinchecker Full Member

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    Darchinyan needs to get over his devestating KO loss to his papa Donaire before he can be considered in any lists.

    Wlad ? :patsch
     
  3. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not true. They just haven't done enough YET.
     
  4. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion

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    1.Pac
    2.Hopkins
    3.JMM
    4.Vasquez who I should drop due to inactivity
    5.Williams
     
  5. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion

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    Beating Adamek the man at CW now and Johnson and Tarver is more than enough. Not to mention he can't get Kessler, Hopkins or Calzaghe in the ring with him.
     
  6. renyo

    renyo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yea he still doesn't crack the top 5 p4p yet but he's knocking on the door one more big win and he's gonna do it.
     
  7. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ok... so he didn't dominate Wink, Kolle, Quintana or Verno? And he did not dominate Marg...but he beat him CLEARLY! Which again....Paul is still very young and at the time he BEAT Marg he was very GREEN! Paul didn't take a baby step up in terms of level of comp when he agreed to face Marg....it was a ****ing LEAP! THat should be taken into consideration. Paul to his credit was looking for the "NAMES" in or at 147 thru 160 but no one really wanted to dance which happens in this sport nowadays, but it wasn't from his "carefull guided" management that these fights didn't take place. Its that Paul is a guy whom many are reluctant to face and for good reason. Still his resume and performances are VERY good considering his age and lenght as a pro fighter.
     

  8. Why is he above Cotto, Hatton, Calderon, Rafa Marquez, Mosley ??
     

  9. No you said he is dominating every weight class from 147-160 which he clearly is not
     
  10. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He is dominiating who he fights at those weights. Dominating the TOP level guys is hard to do when you haven't had the chance to face them. But given whom has stepped up and how Paul performed...YES, he dominated. Not the very top of the crop in each of those weight classes aside from Marg, but still very impressive to say the very least.
     
  11. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think p4p for paul is kind of tricky....
    cotto should be above him because of who he beat yet he would probably beat cotto
    shane should be above him because of who he beat yet he would probably beat shane

    pac should be at above him but pac fought oscar @ 147... so why not paul

    paul mentioned fighting bhop @ 168... lets make hit happen

    you see the predicament
     
  12. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No its not enough IMO nobody he beat is p4p level IMO
     
  13. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion

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    Cotto even though I think Margo cheated he still lost to him not only that Cotto has never beaten a champ in in division he's been in only fought for vacant titles also Williams would beat his ass if they fought.

    Hatton Who has he beaten lately really? Too be honest he's lucky he's even in the top 10 P4P.

    Calderon as much as I like him his resume is suspect and he's getting near the end of his career with no good fights available for him.

    Rafa lost his last two fights why in the hell should he even be in the top 10 P4P? Not to mention he's been inactive for over a year. He should be dropped from the list.

    Shane a win over a guy who wasn't that great to begin with shouldn't shoot him up the ranks like it did. Williams beats him if they fight.
     

  14. Well Williams loss was only last year and it was a much smaller fighter that beat him.... fair enough he beat him in the rematch

    But the fact is the above boxers plus there are quite a few I could name have achived alot more than P.Williams in recent years i terms of belts and names
     
  15. D_knowsboxing

    D_knowsboxing The King is back Full Member

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    PW can't get the big fights because of performances like the one against Wright. Winky is probably one of the best defensive fighters out there and PW landed and threw on him like a heavy bag.