A hellraiser buried in Arlington Cemetery,D.C.

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  1. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I,lived a dangerous life in an out of the ring, but i along with Joe Louis,are
    buried in Arlington National Cemetery,with Honors..Who am I ?
     
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    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well, we can't let our esteemed friend Mr. Hascup have ALL the fun now, can we?;)

    This may seem a bit morbid Burt, but findagrave.com is one of my favorite sites. (Maybe that's a lazy off-shoot of my historian father's own fondness for traipsing through old cemeteries himself. Where we live, there are slate grave markers dating back to the 1700s with angel of death skull imagery which is so popular for making charcoal tombstone rubbings.)
     
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    Actually, this same question as asked by a friend of mind a couple of weeks ago, at one of my meetings, just like the one about the Moyers and Robinson.

    Strange!
     
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    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Duodenum, I could understand your dad's fondness with old gravesites...
    Many years ago when I first visited Gettysburgh Cemetery, i came across
    the rows of grave markers of Union troops at the entrance to the Park..I
    looked down on the markers of these young dead boys who I read about in books,but now stood over. A feeling of sadness engulfed me at that moment,that many years later ,I still retain...b.b.
     
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    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    My father is a Pennsylvania native (Wilkes Barre), and specifically a Civil War buff who has been visiting Gettysburg since he was a kid, so my numerous trips there with him over the years have been with a professional quality tour guide. (In fact, his will stipulates that he be cremated when the time comes, and his ashes divided three ways. One third of those ashes are to be scattered at the site where Lee received the defeated remnants of Pickett's Charge, the location of greatest emotion for him.)

    Once, we did receive a driving tour from a local resident, who told us about how two brothers fighting on the opposite sides were killed in action there a few miles apart, and how skeletal remains continue to surface from time to time. There should be sadness at how sickening the reality of that conflict was. War is no kind of glamorous tournament, and life is fleeting enough as is without deliberate choices being made to shorten it further.
     
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    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I too am a Civil War Buff [minor]and am aware of the site of the start of
    Pickett's charge..Many years ago on a July 3rd day I left my late wife in the building to escape the heat. After searching around in 100degrees heat I found the site where Pickett and his men started their charge
    towards the Union line, where so many of his men were decimated...
    I ran back to tell my wife, "I finally found the site of Pickett's Charge".
    She not a Civil War buff responded, "who cares about Pickett's Charge, I have Master Charge". True story...The Civil War and Boxing History
    are my favorite subjects...b.b.
     
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    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The first three days of July are precisely when Gettysburg should be visited, especially when comparable weather conditions prevail which closely replicate those of the event. Personally, I think it's valuable to witness a historic battlefield site on the anniversary of the event to get a better sense of the experience. To me, something gets lost in the translation otherwise. It may be a lovely place during peak autumn foliage, but that's not the time of year it happened.
    :lol::goodBless her heart.:angel (Did she marry you for the money?)
    You might hit it off with my long retired father, whose late old man was a Golden Gloves boxer in the 1920s, and a bodyguard for the Pennsylvania Govenor. But while my dad has a laptop of his own and the intelligence and ability to develop his computer skills sufficiently enough to involve himself here, he's a restless busybody who can't sit still and shake his lifelong habits of physical activity. Getting him to use his own laptop system to involve himself with us here on classic and in the lounge forum more is something I'll continue working on.

    As an elementary school principal, he progressively oversaw the introduction of world processors and computers into his classroom, but largely cast that budding potential aside once he entered into a long, healthy and well earned and secure status as a retiree. I need to get him to sit down with me and show him some of the ropes. (Once he gets comfortable working a computer again, maybe he'll stop risking his body so much, and reengage his mind actively.) My mother's academic background and knowledge take no back seat to his, and she can find her own way around historic sites very well on her own, but she has no interest in learning computer skills, probably due to concern my father would then appropriate her as a secretary, and she's probably right.

    I told my father that I'd be happy to take a computers for Seniors class with him when registration for those classes open in the fall.
     
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    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Very interesting your family...I took away two things from Gettysburgh,one was a minnie ball which I purchased, and a love for
    Civil War music...I have many albums of the beautiful songs of the war,
    which reflects those haunting times...
    P.S. I better get back to the CLASSIC FORUM, or I'll be shot as a deserter
    ...b.b.