A Light Heavy That Doesn't Do Bad Against Tyson (Spinks Fight)

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  1. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony Vargas was not an elite fighter Full Member

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    Ruddock had one punch KO power Qawi didn`t, who the hell did Qawi beat at heavyweight? Qawi never cracked the top 10 at heavyweight.
     
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    I have and nothing better than after that except the hype created by his fans.
     
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    At least Qawi went distance with Holyfield something Tyson could not ever do and Ruddock too.
     
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    In the early 20th century theres quite a few tbh. Duration LHW champ Bivins, Moore and probably Lloyd Marshall would have beaten Tyson. John Henry Lewis would have destroyed him as would LHW Braddock. Langford would win quite easily too. I wouldn't favor LHW Ezzard Charles but he has a good chance.

    The 1910s and 1920s golden generation was notoriously tough to knock out and that is essential for Tyson. Miske drew Fulton. Tunney beat Dempsey. Loughran, Gibbons, Dillon, Levinsky and Greb were all very difficult to knock down. Clay Turner and Norfolk could put on fun fights. Even earlier Schreck and Root were very punchy for being that small and while I don't think they could beat Tyson I do think they could put up an admirable effort. To make it clear I'm favoring Tunney, Loughran, Miske and Gibbons here not the rest but the rest would have a chance and wouldn't do bad. I wouldn't be surprised if Greb 10-0d Tyson but also wouldn't be surprised if he got knocked out right away.

    Then theres Fitzsimmons who would lose to Tyson 9/10 times but that 1 time would be bad.

    In late 20th and 21st century I'm not picking anyone except Moorer and maybe Beterbiev but quite a few could have success. The win over Spinks keeps me from picking someone like Foster or Tarver. Can't pick RJJ after seeing them fight in their 50s.
     
  5. Mark Anthony

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    Sorry, but I`ve studied many Tyson fights and his speed and skill were insane, he was an amazing combo puncher, I simply feel you haven`t seen his fights from 85-88.
     
  6. Mark Anthony

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    No way did any of the fighters you mention fight anyone with Tyson`s hand speed and power, plus Tyson took Ruddock`s best shots who had more power and reach than any of the fighters you mention here.
     
  7. Man_Machine

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    What does a decent showing against an '88 Tyson look like?

    If it's just a case of getting further than Spinks, then a good many might last a little longer than 91 seconds.

    But, if we're talking about a meaningful performance, it's quite unlikely any LHW does well. Tyson at his 'catch and kill' best would not be denied for too long and then plow through physically over-matched opponents like a hot knife in butter.
     
  8. Bokaj

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    So the 6 lbs over 208 Holy had against Tyson makes the difference between not making it out of rd 1 and dominating? That is some magical 6 lbs for a HW.
     
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    Some of them fought Joe Louis.

    Eddie Futch said Tyson’s hand speed was the best he’d seen at heavyweight since Louis, and he saw them both. I don’t think we can argue that Joe isn’t in Tyson’s class for power, either.

    Doesn’t mean any of them beat Tyson or give him a tough go — Ezzard fought an older Louis who no longer had that hand speed, for instance, and John Henry nor Cinderella could stand up to the Brown Bomber (although Cinderella did score a knockdown) — but those who fought Louis indeed fought someone as fast and powerful as Mike Tyson.
     
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    Would Michael Moorer make it to round 3 ? Can Hopkins survive a few rounds via iq ? Could Qawi or Roy make it even remotely competitive ?

    James Toney or Charles might surprise us. Tarver was also pretty big and fought Cunningham but thats all I can think of
     
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    Thanks for reviving this thread because this is the most hilarious sht I have read in yers. Jimmy Bivins, a guy 35 pounds lighter than Tyson who lost 1 out of every 5 times he entered the ropes, is going to beat a prime Mike.

    It's proclamations like this that make the whole "boxing historian" stance look like the charade it is.

    And I won't even get to that slop grinder Braddock turning the trick. That ******* wouldn't even duplicate Marvis' effort.
     
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  12. ManassaMahler

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    James Tillis took him the distance and weighed 207.
     
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    Are we talking about the fight with Tillis or the fight with Spinks? This isn't a computer game.
     
  14. ManassaMahler

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    I don't understand your question at all. My comment was in response to - and indeed dispositive refutation of - Mark Anthony's absurd claim "I don't think any fighter under 208 would go a single round with Tyson".

    I don't feel like checking boxrec, but Im 80% certain from memory of watching his early fights that several of his early opponents both weighed under 200 pounds and went at least two rounds.
     
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    Bivol maybe?