A Mayweather Revisionist's worst nightmare:

I don't listen to the commentators. I'm telling you, that did not look like the Casamayor I had grown to love. He looked old that night. Period.

 

He had another bout after that, but forgetting the bout afterwards, do you feel that getting clipped and knocked out early by a P4P elite fighter is more telling than looking mediocre over 12 rounds against an unproven prospect?

 

No it looks bad when you make a guy who looked unimpressive against an overmatched opponent move up two divisions to fight you.

Tito and Jones Jr. have been linked for years, how do you see that one going?

And that was a great response, but you failed to address the question that I asked in my previous post:

Originally Posted by Guru_Too_You
Do you have any idea how much flak PBF most likely would have caught for fighting a current lightweight who looked like garbage in his last bout at welterweight?

 

And this is wrong as well, everyone was pissed he wasnt fighting Margarito.

 

Correction: Draw.

So your claiming that he should take the more difficult bout, in your eyes mind you, when its between Casamayor and Mitchell, but not the most difficult bout when its between Margarito, Casamayor and Mitchell?

And I've been here since 99 Rob, and I've been defending Floyd on these boards for years. There was an uproar over Margarito, and no uproar over Casamayor, I hate to tell you.

 

OK, I copied the wrong post, but here are the two questions I've posed that you did not reply to:

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So your claiming that he should take the more difficult bout, in your eyes mind you, when its between Casamayor and Mitchell, but not the most difficult bout when its between Margarito, Casamayor and Mitchell?

2.
He (Mitchell) had another bout after that, but forgetting the bout afterwards, do you feel that getting clipped and knocked out early by a P4P elite fighter is more telling than looking mediocre over 12 rounds against an unproven prospect?

 

OK, the fact that I sit here all day at work and post should be telling enough. I had just as many posts before the legendary ESB crash that I'm sure you've probably never even heard about and most certainly didnt experience.

The bottom line is there has been real uproar over only one potential Mayweather opponent in the past few years, and that is Antonio Margarito. Both at the time that we are discussing, right up until the Williams bout.

The other major uproar was when PBF fought Gatti, when he could not secure a bout with Tszyu and Hatton respectively.

 

Agree to disagree. I can see where you're coming from. And given both their talents, I think it would have been extraordinary at 130 or 135, but Floyd-Casa at 147 wouldnt have been competitive in my opinion. Thats too much weight for Casa.

Getting back on topic, do you feel that Floyd legitimately "ducked" Casamayor?

 

I agree with all of that. I've never once said that I'm glad he didnt fight them, I just think that the claim that he flat out ducked them is a bit much. I've seen one link verifying that Casamayor ever even mentioned Mayweather's name, and that was when Floyd was already at 147. Everything else is heresay, and personally, I don't remember Casamayor or Freitas clamoring for a bout with PBF while he was still at 130.

I wish he had fought them both, for there is little doubt in my mind that either of them would have beaten him at 130. He would have stopped Freitas IMHO in the mid rounds, and he would have won a close but clear decision over Casamayor.

 

I refuse to even discuss PBF supposedly ducking a lightweight when the bout was scheduled for welterweight. Casamayor had never even fought at 140, let alone 147. I'm just not going to this in further detail.

However, you've claimed now that Casamayor was calling out Mayweather while they were at 130 pounds at the same time. That I want to see substantiated. And the fact that you struggle so much to find these articles and interviews is not a good sign, for if it was as widespread as you claim it to be, there should be evidence to back your claims.

 

Floyd Mayweather is not capable of ducking a fighter that drew with Kid Diamond.

Period. Add an exclamation point when youre suggesting the bout was going to take place at 147. And the only article you have provided doesnt even have an author or any sources.

You want to talk about 130 or 135, so be it, but at 147? Youre tripping.

Pretty sure I never said you were wrong and I was right, just asked for a link my friend, just asked for a link.