A question about lineal championship

Here is a lis of all the lineal champs at lhw.

 

Erdei was and still is the linear 175lbs champion. He never lost the title in the ring.

 

Crap! Erdei has won tough fights and has not been given gift decision time after time. He beat the man who beat DM. DM was linear light-heavyweight champion. He had WBO, WBA and IBF. He also beat the former WBC champion. Jones picked up the WBC when Rocky was stripped, also IBO, Ring etc. Erdei still is LH Champion and should be congratulated for moving up and winning a WBC title at 200lbs.

 

By my standards, it's the best fighter at the division. Not some guy who wins one fight then dumps all of his belts to avoid fighting a good fighter..


Lineage means to be able to trace back. All lineage ends when a title is vacated. After that it's just different people people making up different standards to name the guy THEY want to be the lineal champion.

That was the point of my ridiculous exercise. Then you furthered my point by saying you have an even different standard.

By your own admission, the Ring had the Jones-Tarver-Hopkins-Calzaghe lineage and you have a different standard.

Do you see the ridiculousness of it?


Keith

 

And when did Rocky beat Jones for the belt in the first place??

Keith

 

That's not haw lineage works either.


Keith

 

Rocchigiani won the vacated belt. He sued he WBC for sripping him and won. here is no disputing this.

Yes it is. Everybody knows it but you

 

tbh i dont even give a **** about LHW division

 

The linear title is beauty .. to establish the title two recognized
top guys (#1 + #2/3) must fight - this is the best way to establish
true best guy at the particular time. Then simply as that you have
to beat him in the ring to become next champion - no exception.

Roy ... whoever he fought - he didn't beat Michalczewski who
PROVED to be best LHW before Roy entered this division.
And doesn't matter that Roy kept Ring belt and HBO golden
dumpstick .... because if no politics Michaczewski should first
keep Ring belt, dumpstick and linear title at the same time.

As Erdei ... its true that his record is somehow disgrace
for the linear champion but in reality ... nobody beat him so far
... you wanna prove you are the best - call out Erdei , pay him right
money and beat him, then you will have your PROVED share
in the boxing history.

Linear title is not about money, martketing, number of belts on
the wall .... so you can fight Tarver and Johnson for the next 10 times
you can beat Hopkins and Jones at their age of 60 but if you don't
beat the right guy (Erdei) and PROVE he is worthless you will have
no claim to liner title.

 

Uh, Rocky had the belt BEFORE Jones. The WBC illegally stripped Rocky to give the belt to Jones. The WBC got sued for it, lost, and nearly went bankrupt because of it.

The whole thing is silly. Even if you don't think Hill-Maske created a lineage, at worst, Hill-Michalczewski created a lineage. Tiger would have held 3 of the 4 belts at the time (and the 4th was held by Griffin - Jones had just lost at the time.)

 

Jones only picked up he belts ohers were stripped of. :good

 

Erdei is still the lineal champ. Unfortunately he may start milking the WBO belt against nobodies again, at Cruiser he was at least challenged to the limit of his abilities (7-5 decision against a 40 year old Frag).

 

This.