A question for everyone that I asked in a different thread...

Floyd and Pac both weighed 106 pounds when they were 16 years old. Floyd is a larger than Pac right now as we speak. Explain to me how this means that Pac is on roids and that Floyd is clean?

People act like Pac is all roided up because he has moved all the way up to welterweight and is still in fantastic shape. Floyd would be in fantastic shape at 154. So... I would love for people to explain this logic to me. Are people really that blinded by the fact that Pac started his professional career at 16 years old... and that people grow and their bodies mature? I guess Floyd being an amateur when he was 16 is the reason that people don't notice this?

 

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Oh please!

Floyd didn't make the sudden jump that pac did. There are few similarities. I'm not saying Pac is juiced. But why are so many so-called fans so angry at the idea of both Pac and Floyd doing a more stringent drug testing???

 

They are sheep and take a crackhead's statements as gospel. They weren't really worried about it before.

 

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It's because of his jump from 130 - 147 within a few years.

It's more or less a stupid argument, because Pac has weighed nearly the same thing all those years on fight night.

 

Why do you even care to explain? People just refuse to get it.

 

Im going to enjoy this one.....:bbb

Cant wait to hear their explanations....

 

It's not about principle because Manny made compromises and concessions. First Manny accepted the testing then switched and said that he is/was willing to take the tests on his terms. Therefore it cannot be about the principle of the matter. If you ask me to rob a bank, I will say no based on principle and my belief that stealing is wrong. I won't say, "How about just a credit union?" "Maybe an ATM?"

That said, Manny wanted a 30-day cutoff, and Floyd wanted random testing all the way up to the fight. So what did Floyd do? He met in the middle and suggested a 14-day cutoff. Manny said no. Manny countered with 24 days, and Floyd stuck with the fair, middle ground of 30 days.

Can somebody please tell me what difference 10 days make? :scratch: Is 10 days your principle? What could possibly change in 10 days? It's like he needs a month or so for something... I wonder what it could be. Hmmmm.

 

What sudden jump are you talking about nucca?

Pac entered the ring as a jr welter when he was fighting at 126,the only difference is that right now hes not weight drained like he was back then.

 

I will tell you that after YOU tell me why PBF did not accept the offer Pac made to be tested right after the fight? Why not take the test right after the fight?

 

Exactly. When Pac fought at 135... he still entered the ring at 145-147 on fight night. Do people really not understand the concept of cutting water weight?

 

Why can't you tell me why Pac wouldn't take it 14 days out????

 

but then for arguments sake, it should be taken into account, that he is disposing of the bigger guys easier than he was smaller guys.

 

I think people are using size as a reason to explain away in case of a Manny loss. The facts are Manny has fought twice very successfully against two legitimate, great 147lbers. Floyd has been established at Welter for quite a while. Lets have the best two welters (and p4p fighters) go at it. Anyways, to answer youre ?, I agree with you about Manny maturing as he's gotten older. I agree with Nazim Richardson belief that Manny's naturally a 140lber.