Aerobic Energy System

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by vonLPC, Nov 27, 2010.


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  1. vonLPC

    vonLPC Active Member Full Member

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    Thanks for responding Lefty/Brown Bomber. I enjoy reading what you post Lefty on other threads and I feel that you are one of the few who knows their stuff, so I value your opinion, regardless if you agree or not. Please know that I enjoy this type of stuff, so under no circumstances am I trying to be a know it all or difficult from my differences.

    I view conditioning a little bit differently from others. I agree that you will get the necessary muscle fibre adaptations from training your sport. However, I feel that there is a place for doing the muscle fibre training and have seen great results from it.

    As for VO2 max, from what I have read, studies on moderate intensity training 60-65% MHR(group 1) vs. HIIT(group 2) showed that V02 max improved significantly more with group 1 over group 2. Now that being said, HIIT in this context were Tabata intervals.

    Of course, there is no substitute for training for your sport. You hit the nail on the head that there is no one size fits all, this was simply a post on how to improve aerobic conditioning and give most a general idea of a)how this system works and b)various ways to train it.
     
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  2. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bit of LT conditioning work, like running but you dont get far :good[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDTZLH0iGTg[/ame]
     
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  3. Primadonna Kool

    Primadonna Kool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Thats the most ******ed, thing i have ever seen.
     
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  4. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why would that be.
     
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  5. lefty

    lefty Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thanks mate. Here's an abstract of a study- http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17414804
    It's pretty much what I've been taught, I did an assignment on this issue (LSD vs Intervals, effect on VO2max etc.) and the research I looked at showed the same, that higher intensity aerobic training seems to have more benefits than continuous training.
    By working out the distance to run from the MAS test at vVO2max of 120% for your intervals you run the distance making sure you get to the end at every work interval. 15 seconds work, 15 seconds rest. 16 work intervals then 4 minutes rest. Then you go again. It takes only 20 minutes to do and it is an excellent aerobic workout. Hard work but it seems to keep you at or around your VO2max longer than other ways of training so you get maximum benefits.
    Of course other forms of aerobic training (LSD, Pace/tempo, fartlek etc.) are great for you aswell but so are intervals, people seem to think that intervals are only for anaerobic training which isn't true. They are great for aerobic training so thought I should point that out.
     
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  6. lefty

    lefty Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nice. Where do you get your elastic bands and straps from? I'd like to try some things from your videos but I don't have the equipment or the space unfortunately
     
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  7. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lefty, the elastic from a Sailing boat shop, 6 metres straps from a sports shop, its cheap. theres routines for the top half too. The guy is a good soccer player, who I was rehabing that was the 2nd week the sessions were 45 minutes, theres qiute a bit more that i edited, secrets :D
     
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  8. vonLPC

    vonLPC Active Member Full Member

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    Thanks man. It is so funny how one piece of research can suggest one thing, and another says something else. I'm glad you showed me that, which certainly contradicts the other one suggesting that pace/tempo control group had better VO2max improvement than those using the tabata intervals. I for the life of me can't find it though. I did look at this and it indeed suggests that V02 max is improved better through these intervals than LSD.

    Thanks Lefty. I greatly enjoy when this becomes information sharing based with another educated person as opposed to these silly post wars that go way off topic. :good
     
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  9. lefty

    lefty Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :good cheers Scrap
     
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  10. lefty

    lefty Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah I know what you mean about contradictory studies, that's why I try to look at as many studies as I can and keep an open mind. Look forward to chatting/debating in the future :good
     
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  11. skullman

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    sensational article, thanks.
     
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  12. vonLPC

    vonLPC Active Member Full Member

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    You're welcome.:D
     
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  13. skullman

    skullman New Member Full Member

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    Hello friends! I live in south america. follow and read articles about boxing in cuba...and so far they have not abandoned:The traditional method of training, long runs, specific intervals, stairs workout.very good read reviews of the my friend.
     
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