After rewatching the fight on hbo tonight

Watch the very beginning of Mayweather Judah round 12.

Mayweather runs up to Judah and hugs him and he pushes Judah away from him to get distance to prevent him from punching him. Ortiz is the only one to blame. Any smart fighter would have none better

 

I was the only one at the party cheering......
Then I say to all who would listen...,,, What if Ortiz done the same to Floyd Mayweather Jr. Evryone would be jumping for joy

 

Screw Ortiz, his fathers name is MARCOS "El Chino" MAIDANA !!!

 

Idiots dont understand boxing. When you see Floyd come across the ring he was in an offensive boxing position. He had his guard up... lol he did not reach out and embrace ortiz.. His gloves were in the front of him and Ortiz is the one that hugged TWICE after the signal to box on. Floyd tapped his glove a little and was protecting himself. You think Floyd had his gloves in front of his face for a hug.............. I cant get enough.

 

Either way you look at it - even if he himself was ready, FMJ knew Ortiz wasn't. Should he have been? Yeah. Should Floyd have taken advantage of the fact that he wasn't? Probably not, but it is what it is. Ortiz would have eventually gotten KO'd anyway.

 

It's at the end of the video. To me, it looked like a mutual hug, and a mutual backing away from each other to get set. It also looks like more proof that FMJ knew Ortiz wasn't ready.

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What do you think about this then?

at 7:10

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At the start of the 12th round the ref always brings guys together to touch them up. You can't compare it to Ortiz.

 

I think Hopkins tried to take advantage of an opponent who wasn't ready, and the opponent didn't like it too much.

 

:yep would you have been ok if he knocked his opponent out just then?

 

I, for one, am glad Ortiz headbutted FMJ. First reason being is that he should have butted FMJ when FMJ grabbed him by the throat during the weigh-in. Second, every time Ortiz was getting off, FMJ would grab and hold. If you are going to grab and hold then you have no room to talk. I'd rather see a boxer run around the ring than to see this grab and hold ****. When are referee's going to warn and deduct points on this ****? You want to hold? Join the MMA circus. Last of all, that KO shot was one of the cheapest shots I have ever seen a boxer throw to win a fight. Was it legal? Yes, by every definition of the rules. However, FMJ setup Ortiz for that shot. He acted as if he was going to accept one last apology, but if you look at FMJ's eyes, you can clearly see him setting him up. As soon as he sees Ortiz bite on the fake hug, he throws his punches. Cheap and classless as can be. Although I wouldn't have condoned it, Ortiz should have smiled and hugged FMJ after the fight and unleashed a left and a right as soon as they separated, just to give him a taste of his own medicine.

On the flip-side, that was a stupid headbutt by Ortiz. WTF was he thinking? In my opinion, he needs to get a real trainer. The Garcia brothers, are good trainers, but are a several levels below the world class level. I believe a trainer like Goosen (?) would be a good trainer for Ortiz. He's calm, would teach him a few things, and give explicit instructions. I couldn't really hear what Garcia was telling Ortiz, but the little bits and pieces I did hear were nothing that would have helped Ortiz. Ortiz seemed to lack a game plan. IMO, he would have done much better with a pressing attack. Sure, it could have raised the risk level of him getting caught, but in the small spurts that he did press FMJ he caught him a few times.

Oh well, it was a decent fight for as long as it lasted, but I wish it would have lasted longer than four rounds. :fire

 

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What are you trying to say??? Put the ****ing crack pipe down and focus... I am responding to the Pretty One's accusation towards Merchant:

"You never give me a fair shake," said Mayweather to Merchant. "HBO needs to fire you. "You don't know **** about boxing. You ain't ****.":|:|:|

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This is one of the worst breakdowns of this fight that I have read on this site

 

It wasn't meant to be a breakdown of the fight, but thanks anyway.

 

Completely different circumstances than the PBF-Ortiz ordeal. Yeah, I woulda been ok with it, why not?