AJ v Ngannou

I think you have been talking about this a bit too long……

 

Mate, why are replying again and again to this complete idiot? Anyone who thinks Deontay Wilder had a better run with the green and gold than Vitali is a moron and should not be conversed with.

Wilders title ‘defences’ were / are an absolute embarrassment and need to be forgotten asap (as does his tarnishing of the Olympic bronze medal).

 

You're an emotional little girl aren't you?

Vitali's defences with the WBC: Williams, Gomez, Arreola, Kevin, Sosnowski, Briggs, Solis, Adamek, Chisora, Charr

Wilder's: Molina, Duhaupas, Szpilka, Arreola, Washington, Stiverne 2, Ortiz 1, Fury 1, Breazeale, Ortiz 2, Fury 2

Wilder's defences have nine wins over five of Vitali's opponents, Vitali's have four over four of Wilder's, plus Arreola is a mutual opponent.

Wilder clearly had the better list of defences due to the Fury and Ortiz fights. If Vitali were holding the WBC hostage like that today he'd be showered with chit for it. If Wilder had quit against a natural sub-cruiser who he'd failed to put a dent in over 9 rounds he'd be seen as little better than a serious sex offender on these forums.

How did Wilder "tarnish" the bronze medal by winning it on foreign soil? He didn't get gifted his medal, as Joshua did in his hometown, or as Yoka did.

 

Took you off ignore for this lol, however I can confirm you back on it now .

Zzzzzzzzzzz boring essay………

 

Of course you did boy.

 

He's really not coping well with Wallin and Wilder getting dominated. Is he just sad or is it pure autism how he's going on? Either way it's cringe and gay.

 

If Wilder and Tyson Fury enter the Hall of Fame, Mitch will take his Matchroom Bulldozer to the Hall and flatten it.

 

Fury is nailed on and deserves it. The same cannot be said with the same confidence for Wilder.

 

The fury that struggled against ngannou and wallin wouldn't beat Joshua. I just think he's overhyped

AJ gets a lot of stick but he's only been outboxed by usyk. An elite operator who would outbox the entire division.

Not problems against pianetta I said he struggled which he did. 12 rounds agaisnt a bum that he should have put away.

Emanuel was either lying or mistaken. Anyone can get it wrong. Wilder is garbage, a freakish get out of jail card in that right hard but useless boxer.

Fury has been laid out more times than Joshua. Joshua has been down but never flattened like fury. He was stopped on his feet agaisnt ruiz not cleaned out. Fury was within a millisecond of being counted out against wilder and put on his arse a few times.

At the moment yes fury holds the cards but AJ has recovered some ground and if fury loses to usyk he will no longer be reliant on fury throwing him a bone it will be a 50/50.

 

Yeah but you'd never see the Ngannou or Wallin versions of Fury against Joshua imo which was my point. Fury tends to be at his best when he's being doubted and any talk of Joshua having a good chance to beat him will motivate him hugely.

 

He's a multi-account troll mate, he's been having an absolute mental breakdown on here going into damage control after Parker schooled his hero. Fanboys like him should be ignored.

 

If was a 10 rounder dummy. And Fury wasn't trying to put him away, he was trying to fool Wilder/Wilder's team, who you're clearly not any smarter than.

"Emanuel was either lying or mistaken."

Thank you prof Gomo. Every expert who said otherwise about America's most significant 21st century heavyweight was lying or mistaken too.

"He was stopped on his feet agaisnt ruiz not cleaned out"

He was stopped on his feet because he quit on his feet in 7, after going down 4x against a pressure fighter with a 59% KO ratio. He quit because he knew that he was going to get properly KO'd. All of the intangibles Fury has, Joshua lacks.

If Joshua had fought the champion punchers in their backyards that Fury did, he'd have more than just one KO loss on his record.

If Fury loses to Usyk then Fury has an Usyk rematch, if he wants it. Joshua is an afterthought at best.

 

Funny how a few months changes everything. Wallin was always just another heavyweight, Fury fans made out he was a killer because Whyte ducked him.

Personally I think Wilder is no where near as bad as people make him out to be, his last fight he was awful obviously but before that he’s shown killer power and was top 3 heavyweight without question.

I would say in the last 3 months the main thing we’ve discovered is Fury is nowhere near as good as people said he was. His best wins are crap and when they lose it makes his legacy look awful. If AJ banjos Ngannou early doors and Usyk beats Fury, then Fury slips away into darkness, likely won’t even make HOF.

But if Fury beats Usyk who is undoubtedly brilliant then goes on to beat AJ in a Battle of Britain. Things change again.

Either way it’s a weak era.

 

Fair point on Wilder as he has brought excitement and kayos to the division. I personally struggle with his complete lack of fundamental boxing skills which are shown time and again against hand picked and not mention weak opposition. For Fury to dominate him 10 rounds to 2 in that first fight when he was still overweight and not properly fight fit says it all.

Christ though, your comment on it being a weak era, we certainly agree on that.

 

Crazy to think ngannu is barely 3 to 1 just to win.

When Ruiz was 25 to 1 and still 15 to 1 just before the fight began lol.