AJ v Ngannou

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  1. smoking mirrors

    smoking mirrors Active Member Full Member

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    big fan of this “tank Tyson Fury’s legacy” comeback tour. hopefully up next is Wilder or Fury himself.
     
  2. Beale

    Beale Boxing Addict Full Member

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    We have seen nothing has been done in the past when it is clear that some judges have had long careers with decisions and cards that cannot be explained by a lack of knowledge or incompetence.

    One example is Mr Terry O'Connor from Leeds who has provided some of the worst cards in the history of boxing and the dirty fat rat allowed warrior Eduard Gutknecht to be pummelled by George Groves for 12 rounds and end up with life changing injuries due to brain damage.

    Joshua v Ngannou will not need the cards for me - someone is going to be KTFO.
     
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  3. Scissors

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    Joshua knocks him out inside 6.
     
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  4. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So did Wilder, according to you.

    Maybe Usyk will actually do it, obviating a need for revisionism to hand out imaginary losses and make ourselves feel better.
     
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  5. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It would be the fourth time and the sixth attempt. The forth attempt in the last 6 months.

    Kevin, Wlad, Wallin, Ngannou. Whyte failed his test last year and Wilder lost his semi-final with Parker.
     
  6. Guru88

    Guru88 Active Member Full Member

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    Joshua needs to go in there and absolutely dominate, show these mma fans what boxing is all about after they’ve got all carried away the fury fight. Shut them up AJ
     
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  7. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fury had some significant disadvantages against Ngannou which Joshua will not:

    1. Easy to underestimate: 7/1 underdog, MMA fighter, 17-3 record, 37 years old, 21 months inactive, 0-0 as a boxer, deliberately looked terrible on the pads during the public workouts, wild swinging highlight reel MMA KO’s, outstruck by D. Lewis and Gane, gassed badly against Miocic 1, only one (close) win past 10 minutes in 21 MMA/kickboxing fights

    2. Ngannou was entirely focused on Fury, whereas Fury (who was entertaining soccer and boxing legends among other celebrities before the fight) was thinking ahead to the scheduled Usyk fight, doing his utmost to avoid getting dropped for a 2nd time or taking serious damage

    3. No boxing footage to study, whereas team Ngannou had been studying Fury as a potential opponent since 2021 at the latest

    That being said, Ngannou is very big, extremely strong, teak-tough and a big puncher, with an unorthodox style, substantial high level experience in boxing and MMA and Joshua is under pressure not to lose to an "MMA fighter, 0-1 boxer", as well as to win in style.
     
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  8. Boxing Gloves

    Boxing Gloves Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Context is everything, yea he's 0-1 but we all know that it's arguable that it should be 1-0 and it's 1-0 vs the current No1 heavyweight in Fury. Boxing took a massive L that night in October, Fury Embarrassed himself and the sport of boxing. Whilst I don't think for a second AJ is taking this fight to avenge boxing, for me part of me sees it that way. Also for AJ this will go along way of rejuvenating the PPV, stadium filling superstar he used to be as the casuals will lap this up. From a die hard perspective I'd prefer Hrgovic for the IBF title.
     
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  9. carlingeight

    carlingeight Active Member Full Member

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    Can you blame Joshua for following Fury's recent opponents? It's easy money and lots of unwarranted credit. Joshua KO inside 3.

    People gave Wilder, Wallin and now Ngannou massive kudos for narrowly losing to Fury as if it was the 2015 version that beat Wlad, not the horribly conditioned Fury we see now who can barely throw a hard punch.

    Parker took advantage of this with Wilder, and Joshua taking advantage with Wallin and now Ngannou. The only snag is if Fury does actually step into the ring with Usyk in February. I still doubt Fury shows up but the Joshua vs Ngannou fight looks a bit daft after Fury is embarrassed with a shutout and likely stoppage at the hands of Usyk.
     
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  10. Manning

    Manning Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If i'm team Ngannou I wouldn't take a fight like that in a million years. Despite the Fury result there's still every chance Ngannou gets dominated easily by any fringe decent fighter in my book. Why risk that when you can go sign straight away for the monster money fights? It's not like he's young and has time to master the craft and build himself up.
     
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  11. Jamesofthenorth

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    Absolute shite if it happens, just like the Fury one was. The heavyweights are the charlatans of the boxing world. It's all smoke and mirrors.
     
  12. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Technically this will be the fourth time.

    Fury went the distance with Kevin Johnson.
    Joshua stopped him.

    Fury went the distance with Wladimir Klitschko.
    Joshua stopped him.

    Fury went the distance with Otto Wallin.
    Joshua stopped him.

    Fury went the distance with Francis Ngannou.
    Will Joshua stop him?

    And one the other way. They both stopped Dillian Whyte. Although, Joshua stopped him when he was still raw, while Fury waited until he was well done.
     
  13. Gooner4ever

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    Ngannou deserves another big pay day after his performance against Fury last time out. I never saw Joshua vs Hrgovic happening in March unless for certain the IBF bely was on the line and as it stands Usyk still holds that title. I'd expect Joshua to win this by late stoppage or by Unanimous decision.
     
  14. Kev2k83

    Kev2k83 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This will be interesting is Francis a flash in the pan or is there more to him than meets the eye.

    Also fury outboxed and bamboozled Vlad whilst old inactive Vlad who looked shot to ****. No timing no nothing who Joshua went life and death with and should have been knocked out but his old mate didn't want to derail his career hahaha.
     
  15. Kev2k83

    Kev2k83 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hang on a minute is this going to be an actual fight or an exhibition it doesn't look like this has been confirmed?
     
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