AJs PED use?

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  1. lucky luke

    lucky luke Well-Known Member Full Member

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    But that top athletes have better physic than your average man, or AVERAGE athlete, is not so strange when you think about it.

    But by saying that all your fav athletes are cheating, and probably breaking the law, without any evidence what so ever is to convict blindly. Sure, your opinion doesn't hold any formal status but there's a good reason for that.
     
  2. Kevin Willis

    Kevin Willis Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    UKAD is corrupt like all those agencies. They are all run by the same people. Hint, hint!

    you have no proof they test joshua, well they may actually go through the motions of collecting his sample but they do not test it and him and his team know this.

    Fury tested positive right after he opened his mouth about Zionists and Homo's. He is being punishe3d for not towing the pC line not for anything he actually took. Don't you find it odd how Fury's suspension paved the way for Joshua? After all he is the one the U.K> wants representing them.
     
  3. big moose

    big moose Active Member Full Member

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    Top athletes are almost by definition freaks, the only reasonable means of coping with this is looking at long term, longitudinal trends. The basis of the "Biological Passport" approach: gradual improvements are to be expected, sudden jumps in the absence of a good reason are grounds for more intense testing and retention of samples until methods improve.

    For example, Usain Bolt was a freak from a very early age, and his eventual success whilst remarkable, is in keeping with that - he could have been doping from the very start, or not at all. Mo Farah and Chris Frome are viewed as far more suspicious - sudden improvements at an adanced age. Frome cites recovery from biliharzia but Farah's association with two dodgy trainers (Salazar and Aden) and training camps in Ethiopia, where the testing is very lax, throw a bit more shade.

    That said.... some peope are a bit freakish (I am 6'3" with <6% body fat... but I am a rock climber, which makes those kinds of demands).
     
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  4. Todd498

    Todd498 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    :deal::deal::deal:
     
  5. RealDeal

    RealDeal Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    When the abdomen is distended, that is typically a sign of gh, and when you see the real big guts on pro bodybuilders, that's the combination of gh and insulin. Google "palumboism" for a good read.
     
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  6. RealDeal

    RealDeal Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    Not quite
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  7. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Big Lou looks awful. Just goes to show packing on too much muscle can ruin a great physique. Big Lou had a great physique at around 230lbs. Going over 250lbs was a big mistake.
     
  8. juice20

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    Lou was never 230, let alone 250. He was competing at 275-280 in the 70's. During his comeback in the early 90's he was 310 ish.
     
  9. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I meant his on stage weight in 1974 when he came in 2nd, which I think was his most balanced physique. I know on stage Arnold was about 225lbs and Lou was a little under 240lbs.

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  10. juice20

    juice20 Active Member Full Member

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    Arnold was closer to 230-240 on stage. Lou was undeniably in the best condition of his early career in 74, but he was not in the 230's, seeing as he came in at 285 in the 75 Olympia, where his conditioning was visibly worse than the previous year, but not 50 plus pounds worse. 260's is more realistic for 74. The guy was 6'5".
     
  11. Farmboxer

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    Will Joshua start his new commercial for roids, TV contract. Buy my brand of roids and you will gain 30 - 40 lbs. of muscle in no time!
     
  12. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    no.
     
  13. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    So what yo are saying is all agencies are corrupt.

    No athlete in any sport ever has 100% been tested as you were not there to verify it in person as photo's, video, lab results and all the usual evidence for a test is insufficient in your opinion.

    There is an national conspiracy against Zionists and homophobes.

    I also assume you believe the moon landing was faked, US government was responsible for 9/11 and Elvis still lives. :risas3:
     
  14. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    Elvis tko11 Muhammad, its a well known fact.

    uhurhhuh.
     
  15. southpaw333

    southpaw333 New Member Full Member

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    Physique and athleticism are not one in the same thing. I'm not going to lay out a laundry list of athletic freaks who look like they spend more time eating cream puffs than they do in the gym, but there are plenty. Not to mention AJ isn't the greatest athlete in his sport, let alone in the top percentile of all other professional athletes. I would argue that his physique is one of the best among all athletes though. In other words, there's very little correlation.

    Look at the evidence in front of you and come to a logical conclusion, it's a pretty easy one to come to in this case. Same one I came to with Lesnar, Mcquire, Sosa, etc. Or keep your head in the sand, I don't really care. There are plenty of naive people in this world such as yourself, i just hope all their decisions/opinions/actions aren't dictated on having absolute proof like you need in this scenario.

    Quick comment/question on bringing up the legal issue, when's the last time you've heard of a top level professional athlete get any significant legal punishment for getting caught?