~ Alexander POVETKIN v. Eddie CHAMBERS ~ ANALYSIS and PREDICTION Thread ~

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  1. Tom_Tocca

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  2. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Povetkin produced a strong performance against an experienced opponent in an exciting fight ( vs Byrd). Povetkin's accurate combination punching did most of the damage and forced the American's corner to eventually throw the towel in after 1.52 of the 11th round.

    The 28 year-old Povetkin made a cautious start but soon upped the pace from the second round onwards,working away at Byrd's body. Byrd responded by firing in fast combinations. Povetkin was cut in the third round from a accidental clash of heads but it did not affect him too much and he continued to compete at a high work rate ( even though the heads would come together in the typical southpaw-conventional fighters' clash).

    Byrd, though, game as ever, returned fire to finish the round strongly. Povetkin continued to rain in several big combinations in the seventh and eighth rounds to slowly break down the former WBO and IBF heavyweight titleholder. The pattern continued through to the 11th when Byrd's corner finally rescued their brave but out-gunned charge.

    Speaking about Povetkin after the fight Byrd said: "You have to give him credit. He is a very strong fighter and on his way to the title. He will go a long way from here."... Any prediction on the up-coming Chambers-Povetkin eliminator has to be based on this Povetkin-Byrd fight b.c. youngman Chambers is basically a Byrd replica in better condition and able to keep up a faster pace. I can't give a close call, like I expect it to be and in Germany, to Chambers... So it will be a very debated and controversial decision to Sasha Povetkin and I also expect Chambers to land 25% to 50% more jabs and total punches on final CompuBox numbers... SD to Povetkin based on powerpunch stats, aggressiveness and seemingly superior physical strength.
     
  3. C Money

    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    I'm sure that I've seen him go from Boy to MAN and he has a defensive style and has dealt with BIG HW's. I aint speaking from HATE, I'm speaking from HEART with Chambers. Chambers got a BIG one, is continually under rated, and mis-compared to Byrd:-( He's strong, he's tough, I've been picking him, and I believe that he's certainly IN THIS FIGHT.:bbb :yep

    It's all fine and good for Povetkin supporters to feel confident in their man's ability. But another to just toss out ridiculous **** and expect a steamroll. I hear far too much of that. Especially when they call him FAT and act like Povetkin's Body Beatiful:lol: I mean c'mon man:hey Then Chambers got no defense? Tell me that's a fair, balanced, and accurate assesment?:nut

    I've given Povetkin respect as a Gold medalist and said that they are SIMILAR in SIZE and potential. Hey, I know Povetkin will bring it:yep It's hilarious to hear how many simply dismiss that CHAMBERS wont as well.
    That gets me a little charged up. BUt ****.... I've been charged up for this fight. Chambers finally gets his chance to really make a mark.

    No offense to you or any other rational opinion.:nono When you watch an amateur kid from the Homewood section of Pittsburgh grow to be a man, turn pro in Philly, Work hard, be dedicated, have class, and the dude can fight? I cant do anything but support him. I think we've shared those values in a couple different threads:D

    GO CHAMBERS!!!!
     
  4. C Money

    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    This BYRD BULL**** IS RIDICULOUS:lol:

    Byrd ran, hunted, and pecked!!! Chambers? Can stand in and fight in Pocket. Its night and day.

    Keep babbling re-runs of what announcers describe as reality for a GUY who you likely havent seen much of. Perhaps not at all?

    That Byrd fight wasnt that impressive:nono I ****in hope Povetkins down with this theory:D

    Povetkin Byrd
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=XWkpt-0W6ug

    Chambers Guinn
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=bbKY-hKqKE4
     
  5. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I didn't quite get it whether the Byrd-Povetkin description is ridiculous or that the analogy between Byrd and Chambers is poor.
    But let truth be told if you please C Money - Byrd didn't run for ****sake!?! He stood in there and tried to neutralise the russian's jab with his and score fast and in flurries... Yes I haven't seen much of Chambers or I would be lying and that means also my appreciation for the links... Now, Povetkin is impressively disciplined and a much stronger, heavier hitter than Chambers and if you don't agree with this, then you are ****in lyin... I personally don't give a damn about either but I can't see a guy who came out of a 12 rounder SD against Brock to have the murderous russian puncher backing off... And if he ( Eddie) is gonna be himself shoved backwards, he would have to be incredibly skilled, witty and strong to stand in the pocket and win a decision. I don't buy that but I will look into the samples and links you provided me with and I'll try to make up my mind in this very difficult prediction - in the mean time, it's Povetkin SD12 over Chambers all the same.
     
  6. C Money

    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    Byrd was too old to run at that point but he still hunted, pecked, and slapped the mitts with his left? EDDIE CHAMBERS HAS AN EXCELLENT LEFT.....EXCELLENT LEFT. Not that, hi, hello, here's the mit ****:lol: :nono Byrd is a terrible analogy and style comparison in terms of how they went about it.

    Povetkin has better right hand power yes, but stronger? I guarantee Eddies strong enough and smart enough to hold his own. Again he's WALKED DOWN BIGGER OPPONENTS, INCLUDING BROCK. But you obviously didnt see the fight. Eddie clearly controlled Brock and Guinn who's similar in size to povetkin. He's actually a little thicker.

    As I said, support you're man, but get real with the criticism. I mean after all? IF Eddie cant fight? Whats that say about ya boy, if he ****s around and gets boxed in circles?:huh At least watch him and then tell me about why he cant win:rofl
     
  7. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    :happy

    Only thing that worries me is: if Chambers simply covers up with a tight guard sa he did during the Guinn fight, taking those punches without responding, waiting for the other guy to punch himself out before throwing back a jab or a hook...it won't get him far with Povetkin...sure recipe for a TKO...no?
     
  8. Dorfmeister

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    Man, I said it all about a guy who fought his heart out but was being systematically cornered and hit on the body, arms and head with heavy blows thrown in short combinations. You guarantee Chambers is stronger than Byrd and I believe in it but he can't block all those torpedos from Sasha Povetkin with a high arm defense - he's gonna be hit to the body and Sasha is gonna follow that up to the head or possibly he's not gonna block the full strength of the blow and will be rocked back into the ropes time and time again... I really don't give a damn about Povetkin, man, why can't you believe in me??? If Povetkin gets boxed around in circles, I and most will be ****ed cuz collective wisdom says that Chambers has a chance to steal shots but not walk down Povetkin like he's Brock or Guinn... I will tell you in detail and soon enough why he may not win ( not that he can't win cuz I am no fortune teller and must be below average in insight here) but seems to me that you may be commiting the capital mistake here of seeing everything from one perspective, Chambers' of course... I have not made my bet yet but am very interested in this. Cheers.
     
  9. C Money

    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    I like ya Decebal:yep

    My point however is that people are band riding Povetkin in this fight and MANY havent seen much of perhaps either man. Admittedly, I've seen a lot more of Chambers than most, and ASSUREDLY, some have seen more of Povetkin. The difference? Its not about disrespecting Povetkin verbally:nono Chambers has skill,toughness, heart, and class. He'll speak on Jan 26th.

    I hear a lot BS being thrown around that just isnt true. Perhaps to some degree, it makes me think that at least a few of those dont really understand what they see.:D So, i say? I can understand why people think Povetkin is the favorite, but I promise he aint fighting NO CHUMP:twisted:

    Now, Povetkin has talent! No question:nono But Chambers aint going to germany to LAY DOWN:fire In fact from the pic we saw? i like what I see:yep FAST EDDIE will continue to improve AND KEEP STEPPING towards the goal. If Povetkin Wins? He has to beat a good fighter:good
     
  10. C Money

    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    Look man.. Its ok... just watch saturday:yep We dont need any more theories, though do as you feel you must:good

    Chambers defense takes roles, its a combination of movement and in fighting. There's more to it than 1,2,3 right hand land and may you're eyes start opening at the end.

    BTW, i'm no fortune teller by any means. If I had that ability? I'd work on LOTTERIES:good But? I dont do too awful a job at judging fights over the course of a year in general. So, while everyone is wrong sometimes? I'm right more often than NOT:yep

    IMO?? Its 50/50 on the fight. When I hear as many opinion's in agreement but often OFF THE MARK? I like my pick more.
     
  11. C Money

    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    Fast EDDIE came about because his hands are faster than one believes by looking at him. Calvin Brock said he was the sharpest guy he fought and Calvin was KO'd by Klitschko.

    Eddie can go 12 BELIEVE IT:yep His face often looks no different at the end of his fights than it did in the beginning. Chambers will likely be faster and if active? Povetkin will be in for a fight.
     
  12. El Bombasto

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  13. PacDbest

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    I pick Povetkin by Decision, Chambers got quick hands & a little bit slick but he has no Power at all. His slickness will able him to see the light of the 12th rd.
     
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