Ali VS Valuev: Let's settle this once and for all!

Close fight. But, I give it to Ali - by decision.

Valuev has only lost once in his career. He won against David Gaye imo.

 

:huh So... your saying because Ali lost not only to a 5'11'' HW, but one of the best of all time in Frazier, Valuev had a chance? Valuev got beat by a shell of Holyfield, how is Valuev going to have a chance? Can Valuev even go 15? Not even Haye would stand a chance, much less Valuev.

 

I agree.
Frazier is just a beast.. The way to beat ali, is via pressure. Exactly why I think Rocky Marciano would do extremely well against Ali.
Valuev does not provide any pressure, I'm positive Ali would dance circles around this fool.

 

Its Incredible People Think Realy Valuew would Beat ALI :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl
He would Outbox him sooo easy and shool This Big **** Waluev
Waluev have Zero speed he have no Skills he is only a Big Boy and Over
he is a Joke for the Great ALI stop please this Thread atschatschatsch

 

I like Turtles.

 

How can we even argue on this? Valuev by brutal 1st round KO.

Also: This is a good way to make people look stupid.

 

Bell end

 

Would everyone who has replied to this thread please leave ESB and never return?

 

if haye can outbox him than ali would

 

but you're basing everything on height and size, which isn't accurate. like I said before; so what If he's bigger, he's still not skilled enough to deal with ali's combinations. and would you stop that modern heavyweight bull****. the pocket size heavies were actualy better. at least they had skill. evander Holyfield, (was smaller then Ali? blown up cruiserweight if you're going by size beats all, which you are.)was actually sticking-and-moving against valuev. something that a PRIME Ali wouldve done much better. It would be like the first Liston fight; valuev wouldn't even be touching him. honestly these heavyweights are NOT better then the 70s heavies. pathetic to think they were. they have no class or style, and valuev is a prime example of this. without the size, he'd be ****. If haye can outbox him, then please tell me why on earth Ali can't? he's faster, more skilled, and he can move better then haye. power wouldn't be a factor because of valuevs chin and ali's chin, so it would come down to skill which valuev is lacking deeply.
I also find it funny you're taking about all of ali's fights that apparently "gave him hell." look who won. Ali. so don't bring that bull**** up especially if Ali wins in the end??
oh chuvalo was very tough and he would pressure valuev and give him a fight not neccearly beat him though.
and norton was a good boxer for a stylist like Ali. STYLES is another reason why Ali would probably win. valuevs style is tailor made for ali: the key to beating Ali is to pressure him, like Frazier and chuvalo did. valuev wouldn't. he's no Frazier. I think Frazier would beat valuev too, Joe Bugner is basically like valuev, only not as tall or big. but he had more skill compare to him, so well use bugner as a comparison.
honestly I think bugner is better then valuev. he would beat him.. this is just a stupid discussion anyway. valuev is NOT. a good heavyweight. Joe frazier would anahilate him.

 

Ali was shot when he fought berbick.. and ou think he'd get beat that bad? bulll****. but I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, because we're repeating ourselves. too bad we never saw Ali get "tested" against modern "superior" heavyweights. he wouldve done fine. it's funny that your Niko couldn't even beat a washed up holyfield convincingly.
whatever, it's really your own fault if you think Ali would get knocked out by VALUEV.. of all champs, you pick damn valuev..

 

Valuev steamrolls Ali early, anyone who disagrees with me is an idiot.