Ali's take on Foreman vs Tyson

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Glass City Cobra, Apr 12, 2025.

?

Has your opinion changed? Who wins?

  1. Foreman KO

    52.2%
  2. Foreman TKO

    4.3%
  3. Foreman decision

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Tyson KO

    17.4%
  5. Tyson TKO

    21.7%
  6. Tyson decision

    4.3%
  1. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2017
    Messages:
    10,805
    Likes Received:
    18,714
    Morrison stopped Pinklon Thomas and Joe Hipp (Morrison had a broken hand against Hipp too), two men who were not easy to stop.

    I can't wait for you to shift the goal posts again or to try and claim these two were easy to stop.
     
  2. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2014
    Messages:
    3,582
    Likes Received:
    2,232
    Thomas was totally shot and had been stopped 3x going into the fight and did nothing subsequently. So no I don't think stopping that version counts for much at all. Age drugs and brutal kayo losses had destroyed his punch resistance. I've never considered Hipp difficult to stop. Hipp was getting stopped by guys like Seldon and Purrity and largely didn't fight contenders.

    Marsellos Brown went into the 3rd round with Morrison but was stopped quicker by Art Tucker and Bobby Crabtree
    Terry Anderson went into the 7th with Morrison but was stopped quicker by Darnell Nicholson and Gerald Mitchell
    Tim Tomashek made it into the 4th with Morrison but was taken out quicker by Seamus McDonagh

    Over and over we see guys outperforming Morrison against common opponents none of whom are regarded as monster hitters. When's the last time anyone cited McDonagh or Nicholson as massive hitters
     
    zadfrak, Overhand94 and cross_trainer like this.
  3. ThatOne

    ThatOne Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2022
    Messages:
    6,758
    Likes Received:
    9,265
    Morrison beat George by fighting off the backfoot. Is Mike going to fight off the backfoot?
     
    Reinhardt likes this.
  4. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2017
    Messages:
    10,805
    Likes Received:
    18,714
    And there it is...! :lol:
     
    JohnThomas1 likes this.
  5. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2017
    Messages:
    10,805
    Likes Received:
    18,714
    Nope, and Mike never won a fight extensively going off the backfoot in his life.
     
    Reinhardt likes this.
  6. ThatOne

    ThatOne Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2022
    Messages:
    6,758
    Likes Received:
    9,265
    Why do people keep bringing up George's loss to Foreman in this thread?
     
  7. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2005
    Messages:
    55,297
    Likes Received:
    49,751
    Yeah Chuvalo has no place here.
     
  8. ThatOne

    ThatOne Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2022
    Messages:
    6,758
    Likes Received:
    9,265
    My bad. I meant George's loss to Tommy as in Morrison, not Hearns.
     
    Last edited: May 5, 2025
  9. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2005
    Messages:
    55,297
    Likes Received:
    49,751
    All good mate, i love a bit of wordplay fun.
     
  10. Jakub79

    Jakub79 Well-Known Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2024
    Messages:
    1,514
    Likes Received:
    1,608
    I don't think so, I think he will stand like Crawford Grimsley in front of George and exchange blows.
     
  11. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s banned Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2021
    Messages:
    19,739
    Likes Received:
    21,763
    Yeah Crawford Grimsely and Mike Tyson are very similar fighters now that you mention it.
     
  12. MrPook

    MrPook Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2007
    Messages:
    4,343
    Likes Received:
    3,369
    Foreman lost to Morrison who is like Tyson in many ways but not as good.

    Then again a lot of fighters were intimidated by Tyson and I don’t think Foreman would be intimidated. In Teddy Atlas book I read that Foreman mind ****ed Moorer over his sunglasses. Foreman was psychologically strong.

    I think it’s 50/50 but someone is going to get knocked out.
     
  13. Jakub79

    Jakub79 Well-Known Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2024
    Messages:
    1,514
    Likes Received:
    1,608
    I don't think they were similar. Grimsley just stood there and fought. Tyson was harder to hit and he could hit more himself he was better than Grimsley who showed that you don't have to be a runner to be a tough opponent for George
     
    Overhand94 and cross_trainer like this.
  14. Marvelous_Iron

    Marvelous_Iron Active Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2022
    Messages:
    1,292
    Likes Received:
    1,672
    Tyson and Morrison are literally nothing alike, not even their left hooks are similar
     
  15. TNSNO1878

    TNSNO1878 Well-Known Member Full Member

    Joined:
    May 5, 2025
    Messages:
    1,928
    Likes Received:
    3,739
    Foreman at his best, I think, walks through the best version of Tyson. I completely agree with Ali. Tyson lost when he faced elite names who didn't take a backwards step. Foreman had the power, size, chin, and presence. He would be a stylistic nightmare for him. Tyson looked ferocious taking out cannon fodder and light heavyweights; but Foreman was the real deal. It'd play out like the second Foreman vs Frazier fight.
     
    Reinhardt and JohnThomas1 like this.