all this "illegal hand wrap bs"

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  1. conditioner101

    conditioner101 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Then by your logic wraps would damage the hands as well. So somehow tightly wrapped hands manage to injure an opponent more then they do the small bones of the human hand. RIGHT!
     
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    conditioner101 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Im not even going to debate with someone that makes a statement like "the only thing which relates to a cast is when a Wrap is soaked in Sulfer, one of the key ingredients for plaster of paris."
     
  3. SJS19

    SJS19 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Sulfer + Calcium + Oygen = Plaster of Paris.

    Please stick to conditioning.
     
  4. Scar

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    Lay off the roids.
     
  5. MoJoGoodie

    MoJoGoodie Boxing Addict Full Member

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    right but "illegal handwraps" is more than just tape and gauze...i dont think its even about that....they are trying to steer clear other things.

    im not sure i understand the point of the thread because you mention illegal handwraps but dumb it down to just gauze and tape when its more to it than that.

    they pay attention to it so much because if your going to give your fighter a quick edge it will probaly come then where the hands are the primary weapon so yea illegal wraps SHOULD get a lot of attention.
     
  6. boxingfanneato

    boxingfanneato what would MORALES do! Full Member

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    That maybe true... It does make sense ill give u that. That ws my arguement aswell. If nazim didnt katch it, an that seems to be his area of expertise, how are we gonna act like we no more. I do believe handwraps kan help the impact of a punch tho lol.
     
  7. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Is Stacking illegal universaly or is it a comishen by comishen?

    The issue is that by layering tape, gauze than tape again. When the hands sweat under the gloves the wraping becomes hard. Maybe not cast hard but harder than a hand wraped in a thick padding of leather and whatever stuffing is used.
    It may not be noticable with one punch, but as the punches add up it takes a tool.
     
  8. natep

    natep Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Interesting. Would love to hear more trainers talk about this. I mean, I would think if you add a **** ton of tape and gauze you can possibly get a slightly heavier punch, but obviously that isn't allowed.
     
  9. SJS19

    SJS19 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I do train kids and teenagers. I'm not a big fan of conditioners lending their advice on Boxing matters, especially when they have no idea what they're on about.

    It does result in a heavier punch, not the heavy snap that plaster would generate, but more of a dull sort of weight, which accumalates over rounds.
     
  10. Urone2

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    Dude check out some Track and Field, tape applied Directly to the skin helps support muscles. I didn't really see how it would work until I looked up the technices and applied them to my athlete when they had a muscle strain. Try applying tape from the back of your hand down to your wrist cover your hand down just past your wrist then put on a regular wrap over the top of the tape let me know it that hand fells more stable than a hand without the tape.
     
  11. DobyZhee

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    its to bring ratings. Seriously, watch the Marg/Pac fight. there was soo much drama before the fight began.

    I think the more the public has awareness on what goes on behind the scenes in boxing, the much better.

    But Conditioner is right, wraps are done to protect a fighters' hands.
     
  12. Agree.... Plaster though is a different story.
     
  13. Agree, wraps don't add KO power. The only advantage would be if they are hard e.g. plaster, then you have a less cushion where there should be gauze, and that can lead to cuts etc. But punching power is not improved by simply magically wrapping the hands. Look at Resto V Collins...more damage such as bruising and cuts but NO vicious KO power just because padding not there.
     
  14. Longcount

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    I am in the industry and I have to say you are wrong on this one.
     
  15. conditioner101

    conditioner101 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Are you even reading my posts? Hand wraps make your hands more stable??? No ****... REALLY? Thats the whole point of the hand wraps. They provide support, and padding to the small bones of the hands and wrist. I said that from the beginning. What I refute are the claims people make when they say Trinidad punched hard because of the way his hands were wrapped, and if you go over posts in this forum you will find that quite a few examples of people saying that the reason a guy punches so hard is because of the way his hands are wrapped. The only thing a good wrap does is provide support to the small bones in the hands and wrists, provide some padding to the front of the knuckles of the fist, and give a fighter the confidence to punch with all his might.
    I have been training fighters for 12 years. I wrap hands in both the amateurs, and the pros. In fights as small as local amateur cards all the way up to showtime, HBO, n PPV. Over the years I have experimented with a lot of different ways of applying the tape and gauze, and experience has taught me that the best way to wrap a hand is in a manner that enables the fighters to make a very tight fist, support the wrist as much as possible, and make sure that the punching surface is as even as possible so as to evenly disperse the force of the impact so its spread out over all four knuckles instead of two.
    Also no matter how what combination of of tape and gauze i used, and no matter how much sweat and water found its way to the wraps.... when i took the wrap off I didn't have a cast, a piece of plaster, or anything resembling that, what I had was a wet pile of gauze n tape.
    if anyone in here has to wrap hands... give what i say a try. The best wrap is one in which the fighter can make a tight fist. Being able to make a proper fist is with out doubt the most important factor in a good hand wrap. For those that don't believe me... go to a gym, walk up to a heavy bag, close your fist half way or loosely, and hit the bag as hard as you can. After you get out of the hospital you can tell me if I was right or wrong.