Amir Khan Vs Paul McCloskey Build-Up Thread!

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Lazarus, Feb 7, 2011.

  1. roe

    roe Guest

    In fact betfair got it 21/2 and Boylesports have 10/1. Only quickly checked on SkyBet as that's what I often use for boxing but the 6/1 is actually the worst odds for that lol.

    http://www.oddschecker.com/boxing/amir-khan-v-paul-mccloskey/method-of-victory

    It's not great value because Khan should win but still I do have a genuinely good feeling about Khan losing again.
     
  2. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Sorry, but that's bollocks.

    People are going to pay for something or they aren't. The fact that something might be a fiver more is irrelevant.

    How many people actually get these PPV's and watch them on their own anyway?

    We just chip a tenner in each and get as much beer and food as we can and make a night of it.

    You've just pointed out that you are doing well financially but haven't bought any of their PPVs despite being (in your words) a boxing fanatic. If that's the case you are doing it on principle. I'm alright for a few quid myself and have bought the Froch/Kessler fight and also the double header that was £25 for Froch/Abraham and Hopkins/Pascal..... because I wanted to watch them.

    Quit blaming Primetime for this mess - it's Khan's team that are at fault. All they are doing is filling the void..... in previous broadcasts they've used the host feed and added their own commentators - for this one they're doing the whole lot and we've been assured that it will be of the highest quality.

    Let's just wait and see, shall we?

    I don't think this card is PPV worthy, and clearly Sky didn't either - but it's the market that dictates the value of something rather than the opinions/actions of one/a group of individuals.

    Given the lack of time involved to market this thing and so on, it's unlikely that they'll generate a lot of buys - but if by some miracle they do between 50 & 100k they'll make a shedload between them and leave Sky looking like mugs.
     
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    We're showing the weigh ins in the buld up from 5pm tomorrow, tonight you can watch highlights of Khan vs Malignaggi free from 8pm on Ch480 on sky
     
  4. Casual133

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    8/1 at BET365.
     
  5. leo_messi

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    I have McCloskey to Stop khan at 9/1

    although in truth I think Khan wins a UD
     
  6. boxing4eva

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    For Primetime to say they have no control over the fee is bollocks from them.

    On the issue of the £5 PPV, I sort of agree with you, £5, £10.. it wouldn't really make much difference, but £17.50 is way to far... not a chance in hell. If the total cost was anywhere up to £12/£13 I would buy. But I simply won't pay £17.50 because I don't feel it is worth it.
     
  7. JIM KELLY

    JIM KELLY Bullshyt Mr Han Man! Full Member

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    Khan looks very thin compared to his last fight.
     
  8. Big Dunk

    Big Dunk Rob Palmer Full Member

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    I am talking about Sergio Martinez card from a few weeks ago etc. The Berto fight this weekend. People would pay £5 to watch that. I think there is a market for it.

    If they get 50,000 buys they would make more money but theres a long term effect and it wouldn't make sky look like mugs.

    Robin Ried is the pundit.....its not in HD....where is the quality.
     
  9. Grant1

    Grant1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Rob, the Primetime fella won't be able to say this, so I will say it for him.

    Everybody involved will have accepted that the floating market i.e the causals, will be incredibly small for this fight.

    Because it's on Primetime, a channel nobody watches and a channel you have to register with first, nobody will decide to buy it off the cuff if it is £1, £5 or £10.

    The people who will buy it are people like us, who are seasoned to paying £15.

    Even if you charge £10, that won't magically double the number of hardcore boxing fans.

    They are charging £15 because the people who would buy it for a tenner will still pay £15.

    It's a perfectly logical business strategy.
     
  10. happydrinks

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    I'm wondering if this Vale character knows as much about fighters as Ariza did. Anyone know any other fighters he's worked with?
     
  11. Beeston Brawler

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    That's true - but (and this is the major thing) they've only had the small matter of a week to put this thing together.

    They'll be underwriting the cost of the production and thus will need a minimum number of buys in order to cover their own costs.... PPV's have been £14.95 for as long as I can remember and this is far from the worst fight ever to go on PPV - the difference between the number of buys for £10 and £15 would be minimal and would result in a drop in income for all parties.

    £17.50 is a lot, but if there is more than one of you to split the cost..... I'm not defending the £15 nor the £2.50 charge - but it's as expensive as you want to make it.

    :good
     
  12. izmat

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    he is no longer eating the 7000 calories a day Ariza diet
     
  13. Casual133

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    I can't see McCloskey lasting myself. I have chosen Khan between 5-6 at 11/2! Khan is just to much of a step up for him, Khan will want to end this bout.
     
  14. Beeston Brawler

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    The same people would pay £15 if they were that bothered..... I'd be more likely to quibble about paying a fiver - as if to say ''what's the f'n point of that?''.

    There is a long term effect, that if this does well (which by the way I don't think it will) that they may ditch Sky and run with Primetime, especially for fights taking place in America.

    If people are going to stay up while 4am and pay £15 to watch a fight they aren't going to give a **** what channel it's on - if the % split is better with Primetime they'll run with that instead.

    I'm not condoning it, I'd rather this one be on regular Sky Sports as I've already said in this thread..... but the Khan's are money motivated rather than thinking of the long term picture.

    :yep:good
     
  15. Grant1

    Grant1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Another thing Rob is missing is that, if they sell 50k buys at £15 they would need to sell 75k at £10 or 150k at at £5.

    Rob, dropping the price by a fiver wont increase the buys by 50%.

    And dropping it by a tenner won't ****ing treble the interest.

    Use your head, you had it for free.