An Inch or A Mile: Klitschko vs Peter

What this fight showed is when WK is pressured he simply uses his standard 1-2 , clinches or turns/runs, otherwise he is out of ideas, when he cannot think he falls apart, he cannot fight on instinct.

Even the extremely limited Peter was able to push him to the limit, if he would have ANY finishing abilities or at least could have cut off the ring WK would have been toast.

Insert Tyson instead of Peter and WK is getting counted out. Tyson would slip that jab 9 out of 10, the right hand would sail right over him and he would be in range to unload straight rights, hooks and uppercuts plus major body blows. Tyson was a master of cutting off the ring and had amazing foot speed/footwork, he closed in real quick unloading punches in bunches with again, great hand speed. WK has no uppercut so his only close quarter weapon is to clinch.

Again, inserts Tyson instead of Peter and even the most ardent WK fan has to admit that Tyson would finish off that WK version , there is no way Tyson would let him off the hook like Peter did.

 

I agree, when seeing how poor Wlad often looked against pressure fighters, it's hard to see how he would overcome one of the greatest of them all. Even someone like old George who was slow as molasses but would be coming at him all night without any relenting...

Wlad's defence when pressured was flat out laughable more times than not. A master when he was allowed to dictate the pace and action, though.

 

Horse****! Peter was pretty damn good, but only for a short time. When he fought Wlad in 2005 he was in good shape and had a record of 24-0 (21). He did very well vs. Wlad and even had him down multiple times. He underestimated Toney and probably should have lost that fight. They fought again and he beat Toney. He destroyed Maskaev who had stopped Rahman for the 2nd time. To say he was the same old Peter doesn't... I'm not buying it. He was no where near the same fighter in his rematch with Wlad... which was 5 years after their first fight

 

STOP making a mess of other posters threads. No one wants to read your drivel.

 

My reply was a response to this gratuitously stupid comparison you attempted to make and failed ignominiously in doing so!

"So he bores you with holding and leaning? I wonder if there is another fighter or two that you are fond of that did the same Can you say double standard"

You opened the batting I, as per usual, bowled you out for a duck!

 

The only decent punch Mariusz Wach landed all night had Wlad in some bother.

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ps. Wach has just been announced as Dillian Whyte's June 6th opponent.

 

It's Dinomoron. Of course he is.

 

I loved his snapping jab too.

That said, his half-extended jab actually serves a purpose and is a very versatile weapon.

Notice how he uses the shortened distance to effectively land a faster jab. He also uses it to obscure the opponent's vision in setting up his right. I've also seen him use the extended jab to push open the opponents guard. Finally, against Chaggy (I think) he actually used it to control distance by both using it as a guage and by pushing on Chag's head.

So, there's a reason for this otherwise odd-looking stance.

If I were an opponent I would seriously try to punch him in the armpit and force him to rethink his tactics.

 

It's more impressive-looking than actually damaging. He pretty much slipped and parried all the follow up, showing that he still had his senses about him. Check it out in slomo.

 

I think I would jab to his chest and the pit of his stomach,unless you are as tall as he its pretty tough to find his chin as he retreats a couple of steps as soon as you get aggressive.

 

Yes I said ,"some bother",he still had his senses.

 

I do admire your 'cup is half full' outlook, BCS8

In all seriousness, though - whilst I'll accept Wlad can throw a good looking and very effective Jab, I still say it doesn't take too much or too long for it to get bent out of shape. Of course, he always has the battering ram, leaning against the front door (opponent's forehead) technique, to fall back on.

I'm always more amazed at how some of his opponents become hypnotized by Wlad's jab and seem to willingly put their face on the end of it.

 

I think there are two tactical scenarios in which Wlad can come second.Fury with movement ,speed and constantly changing angles showed how an older Wlad would be beaten,but other ,earlier challengers have rarely gone in there with the mindset that," I'm going to have to take some stick,but once I'm in range I'm going to unload on this guy ,whether it be his belly, his ribs ,or whatever."

As soon as they sample Wlad's power they seem to shut up shop and just go through the motions.
Of course for the second tactic to work the challenger must carry serious power himself, which is why I was so disappointed with David Haye's non performance against him , his attack rapidly dwindled into a," I'm just glad to be here act". I'd like to see Joshua come out fast establish his jab and land something big early,if he does I think Wlad will go into a shell and be stopped around halfway.
If Joshua fights tentatively I think Wlad will gather momentum ,fight at his own, comfortable pace gaining confidence all the time and begin to boss the fight.