Anderson vs Fedor - who is the GOAT?

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  1. BobDigi5060

    BobDigi5060 East Side MMA Full Member

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    Fedor gets the Iron Mike treatment.. I don't focus on two names throughout a resume I look at the big picture.

    Fedor crashed and burned, so please check the record books because my man Anderson Silva submitted a guy who punched Fedor out.
     
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  2. greathamza

    greathamza Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Clearly Fedor he fought everyone not named Randy Couture but we know they wanted that fight but it didnt happen but still his resume is undeniable one of the best and better than Silvas
     
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  3. Shogun Assassin

    Shogun Assassin Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What do you think of Silva's losses to Chonan and Takase then?.

    Both Fedor and Anderson suffered embarrassing losses that they shouldn't have when they weren't at their peak, whether you choose to hold it against them when looking at their overall careers is up to you (I don't) but you can't rip into one guy over his losses and give the other a pass.


    Fedor has the better wins, Anderson has the deeper resume, either has a case for GOAT but I'm still going with Fedor.
     
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  4. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Very true. :deal
     
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  5. BobDigi5060

    BobDigi5060 East Side MMA Full Member

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    It's not the same, Fedor was the #1 ranked fighter in the world two years ago.

    Fabricio Werdum was not supposed to beat Fedor :deal

    It was a shocking upset. No shame in losing, but glossing over 2 TKO and submission losses with 3 cans is not a good look.
     
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  6. gyll

    gyll Undetectable Full Member

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    I think Fedor is more like the Roy Jones Jr of MMA. When Fedor's athleticism declined a bit he became average. But when he was at the top of his game he was unbeatable.

    Silva is a bit closer to Ali. He combines the full use of athleticism, heart, and excellent skills.

    It's nearly a tie between Silva and Fedor but I'm giving a slight edge to Silva due to his intelligence, ability to fight at a high level at an old age, and overall skill set.
     
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  7. Haggis McJackass

    Haggis McJackass Semi-neutralist Overseer Full Member

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    Dan Henderson and Werdum are cans? :huh

    Bigfoot's not even a can, let alone Werdum and ****ing Hendo. :lol:

    But I agree that all this "he wasn't Fedor" bull**** is revisionist history. He was entirely capable of beating Werdum, he was heavily favoured to beat Werdum, and the only reason he lost the way he did was because he got sloppy. If Fedor of the Nog fights carelessly leaped right into Werdum's guard and started flailing at him without establishing any kind of base, he would have been submitted too. His technique and motivation had devolved, not his body. :bart

    :hat
     
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  8. Haggis McJackass

    Haggis McJackass Semi-neutralist Overseer Full Member

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    Fedor's athleticism had not declined much at all. His hands were fast, accurate and powerful. He was physically very capable of winning. RJJ jumped around in weight too much and suddenly found that he couldn't pull the trigger any more. He couldn't fight like he was used to fighting. Fedor wasn't like that. Athleticism had exactly nothing to do with his loss to Werdum. :good

    Interesting how polarized the votes are too. Out of 38 voters, I am the only one who thinks that you can make a valid case for either man, depending on what aspects of performance you value over others.

    For example, I personally value longevity and consistency. Others place more significance on how you look on your best night. Different strokes for different folks. :conf

    :hat
     
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  9. BobDigi5060

    BobDigi5060 East Side MMA Full Member

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    Rizzo, and those two other soft bodied HWs.
     
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  10. Haggis McJackass

    Haggis McJackass Semi-neutralist Overseer Full Member

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    Oh, I get you. My mistake. :good

    :hat
     
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  11. BobDigi5060

    BobDigi5060 East Side MMA Full Member

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    It's all good.
     
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  12. CrimsonBeast

    CrimsonBeast Active Member Full Member

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    I vote Silva but, if he would beat Jones he would be the one true GOAT
     
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  13. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    Hendo was weight drained.
     
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  14. Rob_Floyd

    Rob_Floyd Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wins over Aerts, Le Banner, Bonjasky, Feitosa, Bernardo, Hunt, and more in K1.

    Wins over Barnett x3, Coleman, Randleman, Igor, Herring, Wanderlei, Fujita x2, and more in MMA.

    Not overrated.
     
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  15. rusty nails

    rusty nails Tszyu for PM!! Full Member

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    fedor is the greatest but silva is the better fighter.
    if silva beats jones he takes the top spot.
     
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