Andre SOG Ward Rips into Kovalev, HARD.

Let's say I land 150 punches to the head in round one and you land 0. Hell say I even knock you down in that round too. Then in rounds 2-12 you land 10 punches per round (50/50 to head and body) and I land 0. Who wins the fight?

Point is boxing is scored on a rbr basis, not on a punch count basis. The fact that you're basing your argument on total punches landed is so elementary it leads me to believe you don't understand how the sport works.

 

I don't have the data, but I thought kovalev outlander ward in most of the round, including the round ward won..?

 

Its not just about the total punches landed, It is a good gauge to use, but what we saw throughout the fight is Kovalev outboxing and throwing the more effective punches, Ward did absolutely nothing in terms of effectiveness besides clinch, land one punch, sporadic combos and back to clinching again.

 

Nevermind the body shots he landed, the bloody nose kov had, clear exhaustion on kovs part, and ward making him miss clearly. I'm done with you because you clearly are an idiot when it comes to judging a fight. This was a close fight that could have went either way. It went to ward. Get over it.

 

Kov lives in the US! This is his home too! Probably better known than Ward in some parts. Can't wait for the rob...whoops!!! I mean rematch LOL.

 

Kovalev had the better rounds, every round Kovalev won he won with ease while Ward struggled with his. Had this fight taken place in Iceland Kovalev wins comfortably. Also it is not hard to give somebody a bloody nose. Ward was visibly hurt throughout the fight.

 

No man, most people with decent knowledge about sports know Russian sports are corrupt to the core.

Boxers die at the hands of the mafia, heads of sporting committees are involved in systemised doping. Most ryssian sports men and women are under the shadow of PEDs.

In Russia nothing can be expected but corruption

 

Actually right now Russia is far more fair than America when it comes to boxing.

 

Actually only a few Russian sports figures are under investigation, those mentioned in the Mclaren report are, but that list is small as it is in a nation with millions of athletes,less than 5 percent of all Russian athletes are even mentioned in the report. Also dont forget Dr. Exum Wade an American sports doctor even exposed how corrupt and scandalous American Olympic committee was when they hid hundreds upon hundreds of Positive test results and allowed PED abusers to compete, Carl Lewis even admitted that "everyone was doing it" and that he was "part of a system" America was no saint when it came to PEDs either. The WADA investigations on Russia was politically motivated anyways, driven by the United States. Boxing today in Russia is much fairer, remember Povetkin got his azz kicked in Russia by Wlad and the referees did not even penalize Wlad one point for holding.

 

1. "Woooo sawwww..." Say it with me now; "woooo sawwwww."

2. Don't hold your breath there, buddy. 0 for 1 on that so far.

3. "and smashes his reptilian face in" / Wow. I think posters have been banned and accused of quite a bit for saying less.

4. You have long been passionate in your dislike.

 

Tell me about how Kovalev badly bruised and beat the brakes off of Ward en route to victory before he tore Ward's spine straight from his body ala Sgt. Billy. Tell me more about that scene you so wishfully posted about earlier in this thread. And how it's going to happen again. Hold your breath.

 

Merchant said after the fight that if it had taken place in Russia, Kovalev wins by 9 points. I think that's about right.

The USA is probably the only place in the world in which Ward would have gotten the decision he got in the first Kovalev fight.

People are saying that Ward is really "selling" his win now. Yeah. Usually, the narrower the win, the harder the sell. And I think that's why Ward is talking so much. Ditto for Virgil Hunter. When someone is trying to turn a knockdown of themselves into a good thing, that's probably a pretty clear sign you're being "sold".

Also, I agree with CST80 that Ward looks the worse after this fight. He acted like a punk in the run-up, he got a gift, and now he's acting like he won by a 120-108 score. It just doesn't look good, particularly when you're the guy who got knocked down.

As far as Ward's "infighting" goes, I'll just say that I never realized how good of an "infighter" Wlad was until I heard Ward and Hunter talk.

Ward fights the way he does because he has to, given his questionable chin, his short arms, and his lack of power. It works for him (I guess), but don't confuse that with actual infighting skill where punches are exchanged with both arms free of your opponent's body. Sugar Ray Leonard was an excellent infighter because he had the speed and accuracy to land multiple clean shots at a short distance without needing to hold-and-hit to do so. Same with guys like Duran and Chavez Sr. That's real inside fighting, which is not Ward's game.

Let's do a rematch. Hopefully we'll get more resolution then.

 

I thought it was somewhat close but I felt Kovalev easily won the 10th round and won the fight. They both fought well. I think Ward did a lot of good work with the body punches. He is fast and clever and strong and has great conditioning and can take some punches. Kovalev boxed well against the best. I think Kovalev could have been a little less coming forward - the knockdown I think made him chase that instead of boxing more and setting up bombs - and i think he could have been more aggressive when he did. I also thought he let Ward get under his skin a little. But I thought he won even so.

I think if they do fight again Kov needs to fight smarter and conserve his energy better and not let Ward rev him up. He should just be respectful, forget the kick his ass stuff and make it all count in the ring. He needs to have a very dominating performance if he is going to win.

 

Thats like saying Tyson fought the way he did because he had a questionable chin. He HAD to get in close to win. There was no other way for him to win against bigger guys.
Ward HAD to get in on Kovalev. He wasn't winning any fight standing on the outside. He would have ran from Krusher , not towards him , if he was afraid of getting his chin shattered .
Inside fighting is boxing in and out of the clinch. Freeing up your arms and punching. Tieing up with one arm and hitting with the other. Using shoulders to drive guys up against the ropes. Inside fighting is all about getting down and dirty in a mauling style. You have to be more aggressive than the other guy. Thats the whole point of it.

Wrong , Leonard was best at long range and at mid range. Why do you think he lost to Duran the first time? The mauling , dirty dog fighting style of Duran was too much for him. The only way of winning was keeping it long on the outside. You don't know what inside fighting is.
Duran is widely known as one of the most dirtiest fighters of all time. What Ward does , he does 10x times worse.
Idiota... Are you ever right about anything?