Andre Ward W Tdec 11 Mikkel Kessler

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  1. Diablo

    Diablo Active Member Full Member

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    Maybe..but do you really expect someone to participate in super fights in every single outing? It just isnt possible. My point was...after the Lacy fight he was on the map and other names were willing to face him.
     
  2. Dunky McCafferty

    Dunky McCafferty Boxing Junkie banned

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    Thanks Dan, I just found it by accident when I was looking for a new avatar pic!
    Funny thing is though, the guy who did the drawing, he had lots more caricatures, but most werent very good! He got Scotty down to a tee though:D
    As for him coming back? I doubt it very much. I would love to see him come back, we can but dream!
     
  3. Grant1

    Grant1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How does your logic work Jeffro?

    You've said time and again that whatever Kessler acheives as no bearing on Joe's resume/credibility.

    As soon as Kessler loses though you turn all of that on it's head and go all hypocritical on us :lol:

    No?
     
  4. Utter1

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    :patsch oh dear oh dear
     
  5. D-MAC

    D-MAC Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    All good points.

    As you say the competition just wasn't there, and of those that were there some just didn't want to or couldn't fight him for whatever reason. Added to that, others just wouldn't have added anything to his legacy.

    I still think he should have tried his hand at a Dawson fight rather than take on Roy Jones, but when you think about the risk/reward disparity between the two fights then it could have been the right decision.
     
  6. Utter1

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    Joe Calzaghe is deffo top 10 in the super-middle division BUT then again the division is 20 years old.......and happens to have some of the least talent in there, only untill recently does it look packed with talent now.

    Joe won the Hopkins fight by one round on my scorecard, i also tend to think that Hopkins chose the wrong strategy for the fight as he threw to little.

    Who cares, we all know that if Calzaghe had actuallly BEEN THE MAN at super middle for 10 years as he claims.....would have lost, as there is always someone looking for you when your at the top.

    2006 to 2008 he gained media attention and his opponent level was far greater but then we have seen others beat the likes of Lacy, Hopkins, Kessler and Jones.....so what he did was not out of this world.
     
  7. Grant1

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    :yikes
     
  8. Utter1

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    Kessler is still a good fighter and can still one day achieve greatness, you never know.

    Even in this fight he looked good, just Ward was better.
     
  9. Utter1

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    Course he is........but that dosent mean he is an all time great.

    In fact i can only think of Roy Jones and James toney who campaigned at that weight who were all time greats.
     
  10. icemax

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    WTF:huh...Eubank didn't win a fight after this, he was well past it
     
  11. Grant1

    Grant1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He's in the top 1 at SMW.
     
  12. icemax

    icemax Indian Red Full Member

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    How can you say this?? Prior to saturday night he hadn't even fought anyone in his own countries top ten. He looked ragged at times against Kessler, and someone with power and a bit of patience will take the man apart..Abraham will kill him if he lunges in against him like he did against Kessler. Lets not start blowing smoke up the blokes arse just yet:deal
     
  13. threethirteen

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    I think we're witnessing a guy who will operate at an elite level round SMW/LHW, but let's not get excited just on the basis of beating Kessler, who while excellent had already shown he could be outboxed when an opponent changed up their approach constantly.

    As Icemax said, he got over-confident and the difference was that kessler wasn't able to punish him for it. He missed wildly, lunging with big shots and against Abraham, that would spell doom.

    We need to see how he looks in another few fights against guys that will pose him different problems. I think he'd struggle with Bute or Dirrell quite badly, and I think Abraham takes him out.
     
  14. Hooch

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    Well broke down, will have to rethink all of my opinions after such an in depth reply
     
  15. Hooch

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    Had 2 wars with Carl Thompson at Cruiser, could have won them both, excellent fights.