Andrew Golota vs. Filip Hrgovic.

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  1. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    So you're betting he will do what he never did, beat an A fighter . His entire career was self destruction (. form of quitting ) and flat out quitting in manners that left the live commentators astonished in real time or being blown away .. I don't see it ..
     
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    Cojimar 1946 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Where is the evidence for Brewsters power outside the Golota kayo. He couldn't stop Meehan, or Etienne or even Liakhovich
     
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    Cojimar 1946 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bowe was horribly out of shape vs Golota. There's no reason to think that version does well against Hrgovic
     
  4. PopPellegrino

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    So because he can't stop three fighters, he can't punch? Brewster couldn't knock out Etienne because he lacked the skills to do so at that point. He went easy on Meehan because they were friends, and Liakhovich he had his eye injured during the fight.

    But Brewster, if you actually use your eyes, is a better puncher than Hrgovic. He puts his weight into his shots, dips his legs, and is explosive.

    Now, does that mean Brewster was an ATG? No way. He isn't even an ATG puncher, and this doesn't mean he would beat Hrgovic. But he is 10x the puncher Hrgovic is.
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    Bowe was overweight, but he is better than Hrgovic in every trait except chin. Even then, I still put Bowe's chin in the top 15.
     
  5. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    For the record:
    1. Brewster wasn’t quite as good as Hrgovic.
    2. Brewster had scary power that was superior to Hrgovic’s power.
     
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  6. Redbeard7

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    Which good big men did Bowe beat? He never fought Lewis, or even a much smaller but hard punching Mike Tyson. Golota was the best big man he fought (still significantly smaller than Hrgovic, very dumb, mentally pathetic and chinny), Golota was mediocre, and he gave 29 year old Bowe the worst of it in their two fights. Bowe went 2-1 against former 190 pounder Holyfield, the rest of his record is mediocre and inferior to Hrgovic's best wins.

    The thread itself is absurd. Golota can't be backed in any H2H matchup against a good HW because he always imploded in those fights. He never beat anyone above Danell Nicholson level. He was imploding against a Tongan journeyman in his "prime" ffs. Golota a classic 90's hypejob fighter.

    Hrgovic was and still is underrated on the forum, particularly the "classic" section. The likes of Zhang and Itauma would have been H2H dangermen in the 90's, when a chinny ex-LHW became the first southpaw HW champ, simply because America wasn't training them prior to then.
     
  7. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He couldn't even hold it together against a Tongan journeyman in his mythical "prime". Golota's best "wins" were a loss and a draw against past their best versions of blown up CW John Ruiz and blown-up LHW Byrd, to accompany his 9 other losses.
     
  8. Tin_Ribs

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    With regards to your first sentence I never stated otherwise. I've said the same as everyone else has about his mental frailty, you included, that there's little point matching him h2h vs any historically very good heavyweight who has good power, a serviceable chin and some self belief.

    Second sentence, how is who he beat (arguably Byrd and Ruiz in the eyes of many) relevant to how visibly capable he was from a technical standpoint? They can be interlinked to a degree in that it's obviously a bit easier to look skilled against an inferior fighter than someone more your equal, but they're still two different things. Hrgovic pasting Dave Allen (who's a f*cking pantheonic deity amongst plebs btw and who I'd gladly put in charge of the treasury) still didn't show the level of technical skill that Golota did beating fighters of a comparable level to Allen. Two things can be true at once, i.e. a fighter can have a high technical ceiling but for one reason or another have few notable top level wins, be it questionable mental makeup, a weak chin, proneness to cuts, not getting a break in close fights etc. The sport is littered with them throughout history.

    Again, I disagree with nothing you've said bloke. But what you've said is largely irrelevant to what I was trying to say, so I'm puzzled that you've repeated it back to me. We're on the verge of going in circles I think so I'll leave it there.
     
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  9. PopPellegrino

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    Yes, why is it hard for some people to realize this?