Annoying Boxing Cliches

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  1. kerrminator

    kerrminator Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tyson always lost against fighters who stood up to him :lol:
     
  2. JIM KELLY

    JIM KELLY Bullshyt Mr Han Man! Full Member

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    james toney's interviews..
     
  3. JIM KELLY

    JIM KELLY Bullshyt Mr Han Man! Full Member

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    David Haye's goatee.
     
  4. MattMattMatt

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    "Once he hits you, you stay hit".

    What does that even mean? One of the sky commentators said it before the Haye fight.
     
  5. mcguirpa

    mcguirpa Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This really annoys me, especially coming from fighters who always claim to prepare well (Froch and Haye, I'm looking at you :))
     
  6. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    Some people are just going through the boxing vocabulary, which maybe cliched but have been validated over and over...i think of them as not cliches, but rather timeless truths.
     
  7. Neverchair

    Neverchair Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "KTFO"

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    The whole concept of comparing fighters "Head to head". Particularly ones from different eras. It's like taking P4P to the extreme!
     
  8. Mandanda

    Mandanda SkillspayBills Full Member

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    ''Educated Pressure''
    Believe Billy Graham started it off and used it in many interviews and then he was asked on SKY (Ringside) ''what does effective pressure mean???'' Billy's Reply was to stutter and try and workout how to explain the cliche he used umpteen times in interviews.

    It's a nice a cliche but used way to much for people who want to sound smart and knowledgeable without actually having the wit and knowledge to break down the key points to effectively pressurizing there opponent.
     
  9. NO MAS

    NO MAS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    "This will be a real barnburner..."...:nut

    But a cliche that I do like that has been used recently by Johnny Nelson is "He has got Ring Wisdom"...:good
     
  10. threethirteen

    threethirteen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    ''Educated Pressure''

    I guess that does mean something – guys like JCC used educated pressure:

    Advance behind the jab, cut off the ring, land to the body, mix your approach up, and make the opponent work so hard that they wear themselves out trying to anticipate what you’re going to do next.

    Hatton was a swarmer more than a pressure fighter – he overwhelmed with activity and aggression, but there wasn’t a defined gameplan much of the time, other than running the guy over.

    You’re right though, it is a cliché and very few fighters have the skill set to do it.
     
  11. Chinny

    Chinny Well-Known Member Full Member

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    "Comeback"

    Why is every fight after a loss a 'comeback', no matter how quick?

    George Foreman late 80's was a comeback

    Miguel Cotto v Michael Jennings was not Cotto 'coming back', it was just a boxing match (just about)

    Don't call it a comeback (with apologies to James Smith)
     
  12. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    There is a distinction between educated and effective pressure I suppose. I mean effective is truely what it says, any style of pressure that is effective. Any style can be effective, its rather meaningless.

    Educated is something else. I think of that as a specific style in itself. JCC or Roberto Duran are classic exponents. Not just pressure in terms of hunting an opponent down and throwing punches, its more cerebral. Moving the head, lateral movement, always thinking of the transition between attack and defence, feints, working the openings to head and body.

    Hatton was never at any stage educated so Graham had no business talking about it anyway. He never moved his head or thought about defence.
     
  13. Mandanda

    Mandanda SkillspayBills Full Member

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    Yep agreed.
     
  14. Mandanda

    Mandanda SkillspayBills Full Member

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    Yeah your right it does mean something and it's a nice one to fling out but i was shocked when Graham who banded it about struggled to give a proper definition.

    Person i been guilty of using it myself :-:)-(
     
  15. onourway

    onourway Haye KTFO1 Wlad Full Member

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    '"PRIME Mike Tyson"

    Any Khan prediction thread being based around his chin - it may be true, but still becoming a cliche.

    Malignaggi is hard to hit and 'slick'. Cliched and not true.

    Hopkins being clever. Hatton being dirty. For exactly the same tactics.