Anthony Joshua: best Commonwealth heavyweight champion in last 2 decades?

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    :think Going all the way back to Lennox's reign (which ended in 1993, when Joshua was a toddler, with the WBC proclaiming The Lion the world heavyweight champion after Bowe threw his belt in the bin, with Lennox thus abandoning the lesser prestige of being Commonwealth & Lonsdale outright champ and creating a domestic power vacuum as he moved on to greener pastures)

    His competition includes:

    Henry Akinwande
    Scott Welch
    Julius Francis
    Danny Williams
    Michael Sprott
    Matt Skelton
    Martin Rogan
    Sam Sexton
    Dereck Chisora
    Tyson Fury
    David Price
    Lucas Browne


    How does the Joshua that blitzed Cornish fare h2h against the Commonwealth HW champ versions of all of the above?

    I think he could well run the gauntlet a perfect twelve-zip (12).
     
  2. LordSouness

    LordSouness Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Joshua or Fury, for sure, yes.

    I reckon Joshua will go on to do greater things though, so I'd say he Joshua.
     
  3. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Yeah, probably, although we'll all be reaching for the stop-press button if Fury does the impossible on the 24th of next month.

    I was thinking about that today - if Fury beat Wlad, i'd still pick Joshua to beat him if that was his first defence!
     
  4. moparfan

    moparfan ESB's glass jawed fraud Full Member

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    Henry Akinwande........KO4
    Scott Welch................KO2
    Julius Francis...............KO1
    Danny Williams............KO1
    Michael Sprott.............KO2
    Matt Skelton...............KO4
    Martin Rogan...............KO3
    Sam Sexton................KO3
    Dereck Chisora............KO4
    Tyson Fury..................KO3
    David Price..................KO1
    Lucas Browne..............KO3
     
  5. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    Bold proclamation, mo!

    THREE WHOLE GUYS take him into the deep waters of the 4th?

    Nobody has done it yet. :bart
     
  6. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Fury is the only one on that list I feel you could make a case for but I'd pick him to eat those 12.
     
  7. moparfan

    moparfan ESB's glass jawed fraud Full Member

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    Is that a crack at Kingpin...???
     
  8. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    I wouldn't write off a disciplined Wilder KOing/UDing everyone of them either. Now let me put my helmet on and duck for cover.:yep
     
  9. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh!

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    Too early... Calm down guys. Joshua is a definitive blue chipper, along with Parker but let's not get ahead of ourselves.
     
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    moparfan ESB's glass jawed fraud Full Member

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    Key word: disciplined

     
  11. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    No worries there; IMO Fury ought to be as much a wide dog as Berto.

    ...and if he somehow plucks the cottontail from his scally, yes, he'll be as much a candidate as ever there's been to hot-potato in his first defense unless he scrapes the very bottom of the barrel of remotely viable contenders.

    I do feel like Fury would've stopped the Highlander of yesterday, but maybe not in under two minutes' time. AJ, on the other hand, probably takes out the 14-0 Del Boy of Fury vs. Chisora I comfortably inside schedule.

    So comparing the versions that actually captured the Commonwealth title, I'd say Joshua is a different class altogether than Fury. Comparing the Joshua that beat Cornish yesterday with Fury now (improved as much as can be done in the last 4 years, all of whatever his potential fully realized, and poised to contend for a world title) I still think Joshua is the more potent h2h force and would topple Fury at the moment (as well as beat more top heavyweight contenders, and beat the rest in common in more dominating fashion)
     
  12. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh!

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    Yet he's resorted to facing guys like Molina, and Duhaupas... Go figure. But he beats Fury, Chisora, and Akinwande who proved himself against far better competition than Stiverne. You've done messed up boy, you've unleashed the FURY!!!!!! :admin
     
  13. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Yeah, I'll go with that; still, we haven't seen Joshua fight anyone yet, not really. Cornish is ok. So i'd hold back on the ticker-tape just a little while longer, personally.

    EDIT: Delete that post that interrupted our chat please IB. It's fine post, but that's not on.
     
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    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    Nope. Just pointing out that nobody save Jason Gavern and Konstantin Airich has even made it round 3 (and they both didn't even make it halfway into that)
     
  15. IntentionalButt

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    Eh...don't think my thread's premise is getting too far ahead.

    With all due respect to Akinwande, Welch, Francis, Williams, Sprott, Skelton, Rogan, Sexton, Chisora, Price and Browne - we aren't exactly disrespecting a murderer's row of world beaters here by elevating a decorated amateur, gold Medalist and physically gifted marvel like Joshua as the class of the post-Lewis era of Commonwealth titlists in the unlimited class.

    The only argument would be Fury, and opinions are fairly split down the middle as to whether Joshua has more upside than him (or indeed, may already be his better or at least equal).