Anthony Joshua would be absolutely trashed here if........

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  1. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Nothing has been ''exposed'' besides your own ignorance, you silly child!

    I made an assessment on the fight believing Wlad still had enough left to put Jenner away, yes. A feat he wasn't far off from accomplishing, were it not for his big brother advising him to go easy on AJ.

    If you didn't already know, people get predictions wrong. If they didn't, the bookies would be out of business and there'd be no destitute gamblers left in the world. Another thing you might wish to understand, is that predications don't suddenly make a 40 year old man any younger.

    Me stating my belief that Wlad still holds enough power to end AJ doesn't make him a young 25 year old Wlad.

    And to think you went through the trouble of going through all 5k of my posts just to dig out a prediction. smh

    Irrespective of my pre fight prediction, the general consensus during that time, was that Wlad was shot to pieces. And even years prior to the fight with Jenner, people were speculating that he was done and should consider retiring.

    [url]https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/is-wladimir-klitschko-past-his-prime-now-at-38.511415/[/url]

    So you need to come better next time if you wish to ''expose'' anything.
     
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    KingFury64 Active Member banned Full Member

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    But your analysis of Klitschko v Joshua DIDN`T state WK is "shot" but will still have enough power to KO Joshua. It was all about how Klitschko was superior in pretty much every department to Joshua and that`s why he`d win. You HAVE been exposed!! I can understand your embarrassment at being caught out. Man up Sephiroth Rising 7 and take it on the chin (something Wilder won`t be able to do when Joshua hits him!)
     
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    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Even an old shot and war torn Wlad I felt was superior. If i could go back I would have made exactly the same prediction. All it does is show how little I rate Jenner. . The whole premise to your argument is weak to say the least.

    When your boy was scheduled to fight Takam, I predicted that Takam would get blasted out within 3 rounds. He didn't. Does that mean Takam was in his prime because the outcome went against my prediction? Can you answer that or are you going to deflect because it conflicts with your special needs logic?

    Anyone without an agenda reading this will fail to understand the backwards logic that you're presenting here, though they will understand your desperation in trying to conceive an idea that it wasn't clear that Wlad was shot at the time, even though I've shown you evidence to support that the general consensus was that he was shot to pieces at 38 years old - two years before he was even scheduled to fight Jenner.
     
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    No backwards logic at all. Not ONCE did you use the word "shot" to describe Klitschko in your pre fight analysis. The word "shot" only appeared AFTER Joshua had defeated WK. A pathetic attempt to diminish the achievement of a fighter you have a personal dislike for. You are so obvious Sephiroth Rising 7. Therefore you have been exposed for your hypocrisy.
     
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    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    This is absurd.

    Why on earth would I need to mention the fact that he was shot when it was already common knowledge that his best days were behind him?

    Do you mention a young fighter being in their prime every time you make a post about them?

    You've grasped at old worn out broken straws and now you're frantically attempting to grasp fresh thin air and it's not doing you any good at all!
     
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    nickpoppunk Unbelievable Bentekkers Full Member

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    just a question really, do you think VK was suffering from those problems when he fought fury? personal life problems?

    personally i dont think people touch on this enough when rating fury against joshua. if his head wasnt in the right place it shows why he was so gun shy against fury.
     
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    I would say that if there was any fight that Klitschko was struggling to focus fully on, it’d be the Fury fight, considering it was following the birth of their daughter end of 2014 that his wife was getting treatment for anxiety, depression and bipolar disorder, and checked into treatment again in May 2015 - which was only a few weeks before WK would have started training for the Fury fight (Nov-15)?
     
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    I watched the fight over and over again and made my thoughts about it. At first i thought Wladimir couldn't pull the
    trigger which is partially true but Tyson Fury had a lot to do with it, he was constantly moving and feinting, so
    Wladimir was always cautious because he never knew if Fury throws a punch or not. Of course this wouldn't work
    against a guy like Wilder because he doesn't give a **** but against a cautious guy like Wladimir it was the perfect
    gameplan, credit where it's due.
     
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    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    He would get trashed as bad as Wilder does and with good reason. So what's your point?
     
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    Not as much as Joshua and the bizarre thing is, AJ`s level of opposition has impressive when you consider the relativly short career he`s had so far, unlike Wilder.
     
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    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Yes absolutely that is fair to say, However Wlad was still a man who hadn't tasted defeat for nearly over a decade. Let's not forget he was fighting at home and was suppose to blast Fury out of there. Fury at the time didn't even deserve to share ring as him according to some.

    So Fury's feat is far more spectacular considering he won a shut out and didn't go life and death with him the same way the op's hero did.
     
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    A fighter who is a little past their peak "shot". If you thought Klitschko was "shot" when he fought Joshua you would have stated so. You only used the word when he`d LOST to Joshua to try to diminish his achievement. You have been trapped by your own words and are now try to weasel out of them.
     
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    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    So if Wilder had the likes of Martin, Johnson, Cornish,Whyte, Breazelle, Parker and Takam you'd be singing his praises would you?
     
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    Tankatron Boxing Addict Full Member

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    WK's wife was in the throes of post natal depression during his preparation for the Fury fight, not while preparing for AJ.....just saying.
     
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    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    I don't weasal out of anything.

    You stand defiantly by my original prediction.

    You seem to have this idea that if a poster doesn't mention that a fighter is shot, then they somehow don't believe they're shot.

    Case in point is the takam fight where I said he'll lose and never mentioned anything about him being shot to strengthen the argument because it was common knowledge that he was indeed shot.

    These mental somersaults you are performing are ridiculous.

    Ask any boxing scholar if they think the Wlad that fought Jenner was prime or ''just a little past peak'' and most would look at you as if you're asking if the sky is blue.