anybody ever seen moorer vs mike white?

I never understood myself why anyone would want the fight psuedo fixed, but i understand some cash was placed on the underdog up in Reno, and the people who did place the money were bigtime players.. I stated before that this is the one and only time i ever came across a fix that almost genuinely took place.. The other one i saw that always hurt me was when the IBF had Axel robbed of the chance of a decision against Foreman at the MGM... If White could have made the fight look awkward and got into it of sorts he would have walked away with a upset victory on points... Moorers knockdowns and shutout made it too clearcut.. The people concerned abandonned this due to such a badly damaged reputation... One man that told me part of this stuff had no part in it , that man was Luthur Mack.. shhhh....

 

I just hope we have seen the end of shitty happnings like this in the game.. As a kid i never would have thought i would have seen the day for myself, actually i never ever told this story before, it just reminded me when i read the thread.. The Mob as we knew it has long gone from Vegas. no mo Frankie Blinky Palermo.. or Frank the grey man Carbo....... No more Mo Dalitz... I hope.. we leave that **** now to Martin Scorsese..

 

I saw that fight on TV at the time. Moorer scored a vicious knockdown in the first, but then went off the boil before coming back and dropping White at the end of the last round.

White was big, but not very good. Pierre Coetzer also fought him. Julius Long looks like a modern version of White, only he's fatter.

 

Like I say, I've got the fight on DVD and Moorer drops White something like 3 times I think...and the only thing that stopped it being a KO10 victory for him was the ruling that you can only be saved at the bell in the last round.

Moorer drops White hard right at the end and White topples, tries to get up and falls over again. No way he was going to beat the 10 count, but the bell had already saved him. Cornermen rush in, crowd around him and help him to his feet but he still looked out of it.

I do remember Foreman being extremely pro-White on the commentary. Suggesting things he can do to improve, praising his moments and potential and so on. It gets to the point where Lampley says "No, Mike White can't be champion of the world, George. NO THING, okay? It's beautiful for you to say it, okay, we love your heart, but it's just not true."

Got the punchstats too...Moorer 263/394 (67%!), White 158/497 (32%). White was busier but all the heavy stuff was from Moorer, and a lot more of it too.

 

Not to take this thread off-course or anything but I'm curious to hear some of the more balanced peoples opinions on this subject:

Where does Michael Moorer stand with you historically? Was he a good fighter? Great fighter? Or is he fluffed up to try and make Foreman's already staunch resume look better?

Just curious to hear where some stand on this.

 

Mike was the dominant one of the bunch i thought at light heavy and could have cleaned up that division if he'd have wanted to.. Moorers trouble at heavyweight was , although he was a devistating puncher he had a few flaws with punch resistance, he was knocked down by Everett Martin, Bert Cooper, Holyfield in the 1st fight that he won, Foreman KO'd by.. Holyfield in second fight he lost by stoppage, Tua.. Moorer was a very hard puncher and a solid boxer with a fast snappy jab, if he would have beaten George he would have been in against the WBC champ Tyson in a unification fight... But History put paid to that.. He was a Good heavyweight , a good solid champion and a deserved one too, but never a great one. At Light heavy he could have gone on to have a wonderful legacy, but he wanted the cash they brought to the table at heavyweight..

 

Purse wise .. i will find out as near as i can for you in US $$$$$$$$$$$$..

 

Moorer got $6.5m for the fight, Foreman got $1m.

I've never seen Moorer vs Everett Martin, was it a flash knockdown or heavier? Heard it was a bit flashy, though that could be propaganda

 

Damon, Thanks for the purse numbers, i didn't know exactly.......

The Martin Knockdown was Mikes first ever as a pro fighter, Moorer was on the offensive and stepping forward behind the jab, then Everett threw a short straight punch which caught Michael square on and he just slumped onto the seat of his pants, wasn't really hurt but it was a legit knockdown.. Mike was just not concentrating and left himself wide open.. The fight was at the palace at Aubern Hills Michighan... I always remember it , Both men wore very dark green gloves.....