Are you smarter than Jim Lampley or Max Kellerman?

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  1. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    Yes, Lampley is not the smartest of persons.

    During one fight, they showed that 42% of fighter A's punches were power punches, and 30% of fighter B's punches were power punches, so Lampley concluded that 72% of all punches were power punches! :patsch


    I like him, though. Despite all his wrong calls, he keeps things exciting.
     
  2. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    That Bowe defeated every man he fought is a mere technicality. If Golota wasn't a mental case, he would have stopped Bowe both times they met.
     
  3. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    :rofl :rofl :rofl

    Beautiful. Was he a little unsure or totally convinced? You don't remember which fight do you? For some reason I would really like to hear this.
     
  4. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    He was totally convinced. Unfortunately i forgot which fight it was (i don't often re-watch punchstats), but it was no older than 10 years. Maybe Damond knows.
     
  5. SteveO

    SteveO MSW Full Member

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    I know that I can score a fight better then Lederman.

    "OK JIM!...."
     
  6. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I think most people can score a fight better than Harold Lederman. I can't believe they still consult his opinion between rounds anymore. One of the more recent examples that I can think of, is when he claimed that he gave two rounds to Ibragimov against klitschko. Which rounds did he give? I didn't see Ibragimov do anything significant against Klitschko all night.
     
  7. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    I think Ibragimov won the first and the sixth round by a small margin. I think these are the rounds Lederman gave to Ibragimov.
     
  8. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I didn't see Klitschko do anything significant to win enough rounds to be a victor. Punches to the body do count, and Ibragimov won several rounds by doing that while Klitschko barely landed a jab or two the whole round.

    Klitschko: 3, 7, 8, 9
    Ibragimov: 1, 2, 5, 6, 12
    even: 4, 10, 11
     
  9. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    Holy cow. Are you for real with that score card? You think Ibragimov won the fight? Not even Sultan's himself thinks he won.
     
  10. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Do you seriously think that Ibragimov beat Klitschko?

    Man what a robbery.
     
  11. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It depends how to distribute the even rounds. But I do mean that Klitschko didn't do **** to win that many rounds. He barely landed 2-3 flush clean jabs per round in several of them, to which Ibragimov answered with clean hooks to the body, to me those rounds are Ibragimov's without a doubt.
     
  12. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    Seyna does some research. I commend him for that. Every once in a while we are miles apart. This score card and Kenny Norton being a journeyman are things we will never agree on.
     
  13. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I haven't heard one other person besides Senya even say that the fight was close, let alone Ibragimov winning it. I know some things are opinion based, but this is just beyond me.
     
  14. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    Seyna can speak for himself. I find his comments interesting because he's based in Russia, and is less influenced by the media in the West.

    I wonder if the Russia vs Ukraine angle of this fight was a factor for Seyna, who is Russian, and perhaps was rooting for Ibragimov. Speculation on my part. Ukraine and Russia are at odds.

    Still at best Ibragimov won 2-3 rounds. Wlad out landed him and hit him with the harder shots in all the other rounds. If you factor in defense, and ring general ship its Kltischko all the way.
     
  15. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well, tell me what did you give Klitschko 10 rounds for? For pawing with a jab, trying to put Ibragimov's guard down, and not landing anything of note the whole 3 minutes? To that Ibragimov landed good hooks to the body, which only a blindman wouldn't see and wouldn't score the rounds for Ibragimov as the result. As an example, how did you score round 11?

    Ibragimov - jab to the body
    Ibragimov - jab to the body
    Ibragimov - jab to the head
    Klitschko - straight right to front shoulder
    Ibragimov - left hook to the stomach
    Ibragimov - left hook to the shoulder
    Ibragimov - right hook to the shoulder
    Ibragimov - right hook to the head
    Klitschko - right hook to the chest
    Ibragimov - left hook to the body in a clinch
    Ibragimov - left hook to the neck
    Klitschko - left jab to the head
    Ibragimov - left hook to the stomach
    Ibragimov - left hook to the stomach
    Klitschko - left jab which grazed the nose
    Ibragimov - left hook to the chest
    Klitschko - left jab to the head
    Ibragimov - left hook to the chest
    Klitschko - left jab to the back of the head
    Klitschko - right hook to the jaw, but Ibragimov's chin was tucked down so it'd didn't do any real damage (Ibragimov was going sideways with his head lowered down)
    Klitschko - right hook to the jaw