Are you suspicious when a top fighter is not Vada enrolled?

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  1. Dreamking

    Dreamking Active Member Full Member

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    spot on
     
  2. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    Potvetkin aint my boy.

    I like Kovalev, but never cared much for Russian fighters.

    I like Former Soviet fighters, Brits, and American fighters equally, while Russians are down there with the Euros, S Americans, Aussies, African etc etc etc.

    Sure I have some regions I BELIEVE produce HUNGRIER FIGHTERS, others more TALENTED FIGHTERS, and others more DEDICATED FIGHTERS.......but Im not a Potvetkin fan.

    Just understand that the politics of boxing exist, and he's and easy target.
     
  3. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Noone gives a **** about boxing except us hardcores and casuals when there is a huge fight. Povetkin is not the target of a conspiracy neither is Browne they juiced and got caught why is that implausible for you.

    Personally I think amazing fighters can come from anyway long as the coaching, training equipment and the money to support their endavours.
     
  4. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yet taking two big bags of IV the night before the big fight doesn't make you suspicious am I right?
     
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  5. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    I disagree.

    The poorer and tougher environments babies are born into make for the fiercest fighters.

    Provided there is an outlet for their desperation when they are maturing.

    For every Larry Bird, there are 50 Dr Js.
    Do the math.
    For every Arreola. There are 100 Dimitrenkos.

    For every Wilder, 5 Klitsckos.

    HUNGER and dedication make for the greats.

    Nowhere on earth is the desperation and resources available as in the former soviet states.

    Just wait 20 yrs when these Syrian/Afgan/Iraqi kids are coming into the pro ranks.
    NO ONE WILL STOP THEM.
     
  6. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    LOL @ that statement.
     
  7. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What your saying doesn't necessarily go against what I said....none of those people you mentioned would be who they are now without the nurturing and opportunity that they received. Hunger and dedication must be met with the right training, coaching and oppurtunity, everything must combine for the person to become a very special talent.

    You kinda lost me btw do you think Arreola is very impressive? Do you think Larry Bird is 50x the player of Dr J?
     
  8. FuMaster

    FuMaster Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes that actually does. You can look at any of my comments re testing, I have never said Floyd was without a doubt clean and should come under suspicion like any fighter. He did use Ariza for gosh sakes and Memo. You think your idol is clean. That's the irony in all of this. Who is the hypocrite?

    I'm just pointing out the stupidity in fan boys VADA this, VADA that. I remember the endless threads about how bad SHO was (because Floyd was on it). You fanboys cling to nonsense like flies on crap.
     
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  9. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    Nah...Im saying Dimitrenko and Arreola at their best were B level top 15ish types, and for every Arreola from America, there are dozens of Dimitrenkos.
    Same goes for Bird. Great player. Maybe as good or better than Irving, but, BUT.....for every Bird, theres a J, a Nique, an MJ, a Lebron, a Kobe, etc etc etc.

    Products of our environment.
     
  10. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What was your original account cuz you imply like you were here long enough to know what was what? I've only read of one ***** who actually called a spade a spade in regards to Fluid and that was a year after the fight and very resistant at that. And that poster was Alex. I dunno who the **** you are, but you weren't saying this back then.
     
  11. FuMaster

    FuMaster Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Like I give an F if you know who I am? LOL

    You never suspect Pacquiao is the point. You're talking your way around it. I call a hypocrite a hypocrite. You accuse others but you are guilty of the same. Pac fans are like that.
     
  12. LordSouness

    LordSouness Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Until they force all fighters to do olympic-style testing year-round, there's no point holding people to different standards. Well done to anyone who subjects themselves to it voluntarily - but I can understand why someone wouldn't pay out their own pocket for this stuff when they don't have to.
     
  13. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Haha, you got caught with your alt account dumbass.
     
  14. FuMaster

    FuMaster Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What alt account? You can ask any of the mods if I'm using an alt account. Dumbass.
     
  15. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yea, another tool joined recently yet acts like he knows everyone. Like that is the first time that has ever happened. lol