Are you with Floyd that Pacquiao doesn't ...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by fytelod, Jun 1, 2010.

  1. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2004
    Messages:
    45,885
    Likes Received:
    3
    Do you feel he can still beat some top 10 WWs?
     
  2. fytelod

    fytelod Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2009
    Messages:
    9,310
    Likes Received:
    1
    PAC's and Floyd's awards during the last decade (2000 - 2009)

    2009 Fighter of the Year - PAC
    2008 Fighter of the Year - PAC
    2006 Fighter of the Year - PAC
    2009 KO of the Year - PAC KO2 Hatton
    2009 P4P #1 - PAC
    2008 P4P #1 - PAC

    2007 Fighter of the Year - Floyd
    2007 P4P #1 - Floyd
    2006 P4P #1 - Floyd
    2005 P4P #1 - Floyd


    PAC takes this category clearly. :D
     
  3. Totomabs

    Totomabs Sauna Belt Holder Full Member

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2007
    Messages:
    4,226
    Likes Received:
    0

    agree with this. it was indeed a toss up...
     
  4. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2004
    Messages:
    86,106
    Likes Received:
    4,098
    Pac is fighter of decade!!!
     
  5. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2007
    Messages:
    37,732
    Likes Received:
    2
    u make more posts about floyd than the "*****s":huh
     
  6. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2007
    Messages:
    37,732
    Likes Received:
    2
    all that is nice...

    floyd ko pac 11:hi:

    than you'll dissapear like the hatton fan who started makin the same type of $hit...

    ur fault:hat
     
  7. doubleplaidinum

    doubleplaidinum Maravilla Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2008
    Messages:
    8,397
    Likes Received:
    0
    floyd's a ******. pac clearly deserves the award.
     
  8. ironchamp

    ironchamp Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2004
    Messages:
    6,365
    Likes Received:
    1,037
    Technically he should be laughing at you.

    Hopkins lost to Jones in 1993 so that doesn't count but what does count is that he beat him in this decade where it's relevant to the award in question.

    Yes, he lost to Calzaghe a fellow ATG who is also a contender for the same distinction of (FOTD) and Jermain Taylor who at the time he faced him was an A level fighter in two closely contested bouts.

    He has also beaten over the course over the decade:

    Tito Trinidad (ATG undefeated at the time)
    Oscar De la Hoya (ATG)
    Kelly Pavlik (undefeated at the time)
    Winky Wright
    Antonio Tarver @ 175 Tarver's natural weight
    Roy Jones Jr. (ATG)
    Williams Joppy
    Howard Eastman

    And the French dude you're talking about is Morrade Hakkar who was his mandatory if I'm not mistaken, I check later but from what I recall fighting your mandatories is part of what Champions do routinely.

    So in conclusion Bernard Hopkins would have been viable option for the Fighter of the Decade award.

    As was Joe Calzaghe
    As was Floyd Mayweather jr.

    Incidentally Mayweather's disagreements with Pacquiao winning the award stems as a direct result of feeling slighted for an award in which he was clearly was in contention.

    Don't kid yourself if you think Joe Calzaghe doesn't feel that he should be the winner.

    Or Bernard Hopkins,
    Or Manny Pacquiao himself had he been stepped over.

    I don't see how complaining in private would have them any better a person.

    Incidentally, I think Pacquiao is a pretty good choice for the award considering what he had accomplished over the course of the decade but Mayweather or Hopkins winning that distinction would have been just as well.
     
  9. HitBattousai

    HitBattousai Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    May 6, 2006
    Messages:
    3,076
    Likes Received:
    16
    Floyd is just downplaying Pac's career as per usual, as he's done to many fighters. Rating him in the same fashion you can say Floyd hasn't really beaten an ATG close to his prime, lost to Jose Luis Castillo so he's not undefeated, brought Hatton up to 147 where he looked terrible against Collazo, handpicked competition, etc, etc. Pac is the fighter of the decade. He has the best resume over the last ten years given his quality of opposition spanning many weight classes. Doesn't mean that he'll beat Floyd should they fight, but he's proven more to this point, and deserves the award.
     
  10. fytelod

    fytelod Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2009
    Messages:
    9,310
    Likes Received:
    1
    hope you'll agree to a lifetime ban bet with me. i have pac stopping floyd. :D (after the fight you'll be allowed to stay for 1 month then the lifetime ban begins :lol: ).
     
  11. hooligan

    hooligan Millionaire Bum Full Member

    Joined:
    May 8, 2006
    Messages:
    4,499
    Likes Received:
    10
    pbf is just like a kid sour graping...

    the 2 year lay off, as mentioned by others is what really gave it to pac....
     
  12. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2004
    Messages:
    45,885
    Likes Received:
    3
    and once you lose, you'd make an alias.
     
  13. dhenzrae

    dhenzrae A Proud Noypi Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2008
    Messages:
    7,856
    Likes Received:
    0
    pac desereves it, but its a close fight with floyd. his retirement really hurt his chance.
     
  14. fytelod

    fytelod Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2009
    Messages:
    9,310
    Likes Received:
    1

    even you can also do that. everybody can do that. :lol:
     
  15. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2004
    Messages:
    45,885
    Likes Received:
    3
    Nah, if I made a lifetime ban bet I would honor it.