Arguello vs Nelson @ 130

Yeah, I clearly don't rate african fighters, hence why I've been bigging up a friend called Bongani Mwelase for the past six months and rate Azumah as one of my all-time faves and Clottey as one of my current faves???

Nelson's style suits Arguello perfectly. It is not just me saying this, it's most. Olu's hate of me stems from my criticism from his devotion of Ajose. I know he's your friend but you have to be realistic Olu.

At the end of the day, Olu calling me an idiot is fine. He is the one who said he wasn't sure whether Pavlik could make 154 when I suggested Ajose fight Pavlik. He has no grasp of boxing politics and of styles; no offence Olu, but I'm sure most (especially those on the British forum) would agree with me :good

 

By the way, at 126 or 130, Fenech is absolutely MADE for Arguello. A swarmer with little to no punching power; ****IN HELL SOMEONE BACK ME UP HERE :rofl

 

The fact you say Neslso style suits Arguello points to your crap analysis. You need to read Azumah1's post on this to get enlightenment. You really do. Azumah Nelson was very adaptable Arguello great fighter that he was, was not.

No the problem with people like you on the Brit Forum is that you are to obvious and the one thing boxing is not is obvious. I am not saying I am always right but my analysis of fights and the way I pick em tends to be spot on.

As for Ajose the simple point is that I have no problems putting him in with anyone from 140-155 pounds for a number of years now period. Call me biased but at least my guy keeps winning beating everything put in front of him.

 

The fact you are begging for back up proves my point. I never ask for back up because my job is not to go for the popular or politically correct rather for the truth including the intangibles on which fights turn. Boxing is not as predictable or obvious as you think.

 

You're analysis is crap! Arguello struggled with movers, not aggressive fighters. Honestly, once the U.S time zone kicks in and some informed posters come on here you will look very, very silly indeed.

With you it is always 'I'm right, I'm never wrong'.

 

Im not sure a prime Fenech is necessarily made for anyone... the kind of pressure and physical domination he brings to the table wouldnt be easy for anyone. He isnt "just a swarmer" IMO..he is one of the best ever at that particular style with an underrated level of skill and technical ability.

But Arguello most certainly stops him at some stage...especially at 130.

 

I don't disagree with Olu's ideas about Nelson.....in no way is Arguello a 100% winner against Nelson (or Fenech for that matter)

But in terms of styles, they match up well. If you were to say Sweet Pea vs arguello at LW, now there's a fight I'd struggle to give Alexis a round in. He really struggled with people with good movement/footspeed.

Aggressive fighters, even those with great head movement, where prone to being timed with Arguello's fantastic punches, either combinations or single shots. IMO Nelson gets taken out, and Fenech's inability to hurt Arguello (let's not forget how bad a state his hands were in by the time he got up to those weights) would be his downfall. Alexis respected EVERY fighter, but Fenech would not be able to 'earn his respect' if you know what I mean, and yes WhatARock, I agree Fenech was as good a 'swarmer' as you'll ever find, and extremely underrated by a lot of modern fans IMO.

 

Alexis' career tells the story...majority of the time he struggled it was against the kind of fighters you mentioned flea..Limon, Chacon, Marcel, Fernandez.

I think Azumah's lack of head movement and the fact he wont be able to physically dominate Alexis would be his downfall here..I cant see him wearing down, outworking or outboxing Arguello over the long haul...but I do see him bringing all kinds of hell on his way to losing.

 

Of course. Azumah was as strong as a bull and a decent puncher with both hands. I wouldn't be surprised if he floored Alexis at some point. It's keeping him down that is tricky, and as you say, his lack of head movement would be his downfall. Once Alexis had him hurt he would put him away. If Azumah had Alexis hurt I think he would struggle to finish him off.

 

You are a bloody fool missing the key point is that Nelson was adaptable with several styles whilst Arguello was not. You seem to think Nelson was merely a pressure fighter which makes me doubt that you watched the career set of both fighters.

 

Dream on. No one ever took Nelson out. He was stopped once against Sanchez with about 4 seconds left when he had run out of gas as a novice pro and last minute substitute when he was notbyet ready to fight for the world title.

 

:rofl I guess objectivity isn't a word you're familiar with.

 

What fighters possessed the style/s that are relevant to this argument in your opinion Olu? :think

 

When the hell did Azumah struggle to take out someone he had hurt? Your comments are mind boggling. I am quickly losing any respect I may once have had for you. I really am. We are going to have a good laugh at the gym when I tell the lads about your comments.

 

Olu, my past here on the classic forum suggests that I'm a massive fan of both. I admit I have seen less of azumah than I have of Alexis, but that's like saying I walk more than I sit down. It's basically even, and I'm somewhat of an Alexis aficionado yes, but it doesn't mean that I,unlike you, cannot be objective.