Ariza: The Other Reason for PacMan's success.

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  1. MrWonderful

    MrWonderful Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What complete and utter pacland trash.

    Completely and utterly false.

    The USSR, USA, East Germany spent most of the 1970s 80s and 90s beating urine testing.

    Random blood testing revolutinised the sport.

    Any fighter who wants to only do urine tests may as well admit they're just juicingh
     
  2. MrWonderful

    MrWonderful Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I live in South East Asia

    I can confirm, categorically, that people in this area are very famous for being very happy to lie, cheat and steal to get what they want. They take great pride in conning people
     
  3. MrWonderful

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    Manny's blood tests were medical. All boxers have to take medical tests before fights.

    Manny took one 10 days before the hatton fight as well.

    His excuses over Mayweather were drug tests. Not blood tests
     
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    Reading is the first part. Comprehension usually comes immediately after.
     
  5. MrWonderful

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    I don't get the point of this article. Ariza's been a suspected doper for years. He's stated numerous times that he doesn't even want drug testers in the sport.

    Manny's punch out put has risen dramatically in his 2 years with Ariaz. Throwing 1200 shots at 31 when he could only manage 620 at his physical peak in his mid 20s?

    You have to be incredibely naieve if you actually think that you can go to a gym and just transform your energy and power levels, and basically develop lean muscle and power by just changing your diet. That's just a complete joke. I can't see how anyone who actually trains in a gym believes this stuff.

    Ariza may well do it all naturally. But I'd say, with how awful drug testing is in boxing, I;d say there's a heck of a chance he's probably just doping Pacquiao. HGH is a far more likely way to get the results he has, than a diet..................

    If a boxer faces one drug test before a fight, that doesn't even pick up HGH, what's stopping Ariza giving Manny HGH for the entire 3 months of a training camp? All year around?

    Ariza has his rep as a few guys have failed tests while being trained by him. And he works with known BALCO guys.

    You may welll believe it's "magic concotions and mixes". I just think it's HGH
     
  6. MrWonderful

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    Manny took a medical blood test 10 days before Hatton, but walked out of a fight because Floyd would only give him a 14 day cut off for drug testing blood tests?

    The only problem was that they were drug tests. Not blood tests
     
  7. MrWonderful

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    PS. If Manny's legitimately taking on 7000 extra calories a day (complete BS as he'd put on huge levels of muscle mass and weight) he'd almost certainly be on dietry fat burning supplements as well.

    Which are illegal in boxing. The same thing Roy Jones failed on.

    Manny has lean power - as in power without gaining any weight or mass.

    You don't get that through traditional calorie in take, and gym work.

    You take 7'000 extra calories a day, and work out like crazy, you'll put on 30 pounds of muscle.

    Lean power is chemical I'm afraid
     
  8. crimson

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    I re-read my posts and asked my little niece to do the same.
    We both can't find the part where I mentioned, discussed, argued, etc anything about blood test for Manny or PBF 14 days stuff.

    The best part is you quoted me.
     
  9. Ared

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    Err.....

    http://ezinearticles.com/?Michael-P...ries-a-Day-For-an-Olympic-Champion&id=1410810
     
  10. Devildoc

    Devildoc Capo Di Tutti Capi Full Member

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    Stop posting. You have no idea how stupid you're looking right now. For your sake, stop posting.
     
  11. bulakenyo

    bulakenyo Am I a boxing fan yet? Full Member

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    Marathon runners consume incredible amounts of calories everyday.

    Mostly carbohydrates like pasta. Bowls and bowls everyday, during training.

    Look how lean those guys look.

    Consumption of super high calories doesnt always mean bulking up like a bodybuilder.
     
  12. GOW7

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    Bro save it. Your wasting youre time even though youre right. Manny is burning too much weight because he uses EPO. Its why he has to intake 7000 calories a day eating every 2 hours just to keep weight and its why he went from 600 punches a fight to throwing 1200 against Clottey and not even tiring. Its also why he can go 17 rounds of mits without a sip of water bro. Even in Arizas own words he says Manny's walking around weight is 146. Of course I'm no expert but this guy is definetely doping just like you said. "Drug" tests are different than "medical" tests that see if Manny has HIV or bull**** of that nature. He'll eventually get exposed. Its just a matter of time. If they took a blood sample today his red blood cell count would be off the chart. He's even playing basketball after training instead of that "important" congress work.
     
  13. johnnydrama

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    You're an idiot kid.:lol: The urine analysis is a lot more comprehensive than it use to be back in the 70's and 80's. The combination testing is a way to test more in depth but the majority of those caught under WADA or USADA testing protocols are caught with URINE testing....not Blood. Most of those who are dirty test positive most commonly for THC. FACT.
     
  14. johnnydrama

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    :rofl You have no idea what EPO is or does do you?:lol:
     
  15. Divi253

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    Interesting article. I still believe dude is on EPO at least, but only blood tests will prove it. His stamina is off the charts and the current urine testing they are doing CANNOT detect Blood doping or EPO. They supposedly have something in the works (Nanotrap) that can detect higher level of red blood cells (Giving more stamina), but it is not what they are using currently AND the red blood cell count can be manipulated by training in high altitudes. There can be a million bashing posts, but the honest truth is random blood testing is the only way to detect if he's truely on EPO or Blood doping, or even HGH for that matter. He could be on the most awesome workout plan ever, but I'd like to see him prove it. What he's doing hasn't been done before and his reactions to the first negotiations only made him look more suspicious. Many will say only Floyd fans question him, but his transformation and how his camp handled the situation make him look suspicious. Doesn't make him guilty, but it's crazy to say it's no way he's guilty. You can be blind if you choose to though...