Artur Beterbiev vs. Bernard Hopkins

Show me a fight where Beterbiev showed actual inside fighting tactics.

What do you mean Beterbiev would make him pay? Just because he is strong? GTFO.

 

By your logic Hopkins should of lost every fight at light heavyweight because he was a natural middleweight. But he didn't how do you explain how he beat men much bigger than him, men bigger than Beterbiev. Try actually coming up with good debatable points that can't so easily be dismantled. Christ I could make a better case for Beterbiev beating Hopkins than the simple points you put across.

I'm calling you a fanboy because your posts come across as that of a fanboy. Your not actually making even half decent arguments to support your point of view, your throwing out nonsensical arguments. If you actually made some decent points you wouldn't come across so foolish.

Again why bring up Ward when I haven't. You are again going off on a tangent trying to refute points I haven't made to bolster your point of view. So again Fanboy like behaviour.

 

By KOing him out cold.
Such thing with him will do also Buatsi and a lot of western modern LHW pro boxers and with a glance and quickly.

Ha, ha ha.

 

nobody looked good against hopkins until he was well into his 40's

 

Beterbiev is a nightmare for spoiler types. The amount of power he can put into short inside punches is ridiculous.

 

Why not?

You worship Hopkins and this is allowed and if he isn't worshiped, this is bad and you call your opponents in discussions as fanboys?


You like a lot of posters in this forum are selfish and delusional. Damn, and you dismantle arguments etc alike.
Cool.

Damn, you are so smart.

 

Very ironic calling Hopkins a blown up MW then saying Beterbiev should be fighting at Cruiser. Hopkins was one of the biggest middleweights I've ever seen.

 

For MW division and until he was 41 yeah.
Props that he lasted so long but he was MW almost all his career. Only some later fights LHW.

 

yeah and not rarely weight bully at MW.

This was not in modern times. Now compare this with Buatsi size for example.

 

that doesn't make sense

 

Hopkins was at most 168 on fight night when competing at 160. He also made 157lbs For Trinidad(158) and 156 for De La Hoya(155).
He was tall, but he wasn´t a big guy at all.

 

I don’t think Hopkins grabbing, holding, clinching, wrestling, fouling, and faking low blows would work on Beterbiev. Hopkins punch output was too low even by 2006.

 

Liking a fighter doesn't make you or me a fanboy. It's your inability to make a coherent argument to support your point of view and your attempts use unrelated points to bolster your weak argument that make you come across as a fanboy, either that or a troll.

Me dismantling your arguments are not cool at all as your arguments are so weak. Doesn't take a smart man to dismantle such easy points.

Reg in his post about Beterbiev's power with short punches has made a stronger argument in one sentence than all your posts in response to me. I might not agree with Reg's conclusion but he's actually making debatable point unlike you who just post an opinion that isn't even debatable and easily refuted with obvious examples.

 

This does makes sense. While he was able to be a weight bully vs enough high number of MW boxers, at modern LHW not only Beterbiev 30-35 y.o versions and Gvozdyk pre fight vs Beterbiev era, xx boxers at modern LHW will weight and strength bully exactly the same Hopkins.
I do not see how 41+ y.o Hopkins will beat 30-32 y.o Ward, not alone large LHW dudes. Ward btw almost all his pro career was SMW boxer and had few fights at LHW and he needed to bulk up a bit for LHW.
Ward ofc was great fighter and with enough power for SMW where he had almost all his pro fights.

 

You can't dismantle any bare thing from arguments about any theoretical fights that might had happened because only one thing in the world is without any doubts valid thing if there is real proof with facts.
I hope you had studied somewhere STEM related subjects, at least at HS?

Only one proof is valid: proof by facts.
Since they did not had fought all this discussion is only entertainment worth spending of free time. Nothing more.


All these discussions are real fun. This isn't like math where you can reverse calculate equation and cross check algos used.
We might get proof that 0,1% from 1000 is 1 but not about these your theoretical fights that " might had happened ".